84. Vitality Journey: Physical, Mental, Emotional and Energetic / Neil Cannon

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Neil Cannon's mission is to find the root cause of the disease and help others balance their bodies by addressing his Pillars of Vitality. He wants to spread the message that anyone can ignite their own inner healer and find balance within their bodies. Today we talk about how the Physical, Mental, Emotional and Energetic Pillars of Vitality.

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Neil Cannon 0:00

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Katie Graham 1:10

Hey, you guys, and welcome back to another episode of body breaking free. I am your host, Katie. And today, we have Neil cannon on the podcast, you guys, this conversation totally blew me out of the water. Neil is just like a beam of light. And like so much knowledge. I was just like, trying to soak it all in for a little bit longer episode, because we just like he just has so much to give and so generous and everything he explains, I cannot wait for you to hear. He is the founder of the vitality secret. He talks about the four pillars of health and bringing balance in the body. So we talked about getting at the root cause of the disease of the inflammation happening, so that you can really heal at the root, right, and you don't have to bandaid over, like many of us do, and just keeps us in the suffering. So Neil incorporates all the physical aspect. And then he dives into the mental, the emotional, and the energetic. And I know we've heard this before on the podcast, this holistic approach. But I've never heard it the way that Neil describes it. And I was just like, yes, yes, yes, yes. Like, it just felt so good to kind of validate the experience and like hear it and words in such a like, direct way. So it was great, I can't wait. And make sure to share this with a friend. Like that's the best way to spread the love of the podcast and support us here at body breaking free. Make sure to get on our newsletter, I have the link in the show notes so that you can say up to date on the podcast, we have some upcoming stuff to share. So I'm so excited. So make sure to get on that bad boy, I will have the link at Katie Kay graham.com forward slash newsletter. Okay, guys, without further ado, sit back and take a listen to Neil, thank you so much for being on body breaking free podcast today.

Neil Cannon 3:41

Thank you, Katie. It's a pleasure to be here and honored to be on your show. Thank you.

Katie Graham 3:45

Yeah. And tell us where you are in the world right now.

Neil Cannon 3:49

I'm currently in the southern of southern tip of Baja. It's called Todos Santos about one hour north of Cabo. Very serendipitously during the pandemic, actually, I've not looked back.

Katie Graham 4:01

That's beautiful. i We have lots of snow in Park City right now. So a little beach time would be beautiful and nice for me. But um, yeah. It's great to just chat with you today. And let's dive into first your story, Neil. I'm just curious, what led you on this journey to want to share this work? This kind of, not kind of but really service based work to help other people feel better in their health in their bodies and really help them thrive? Tell us like your own personal journey and what led you on this path?

Neil Cannon 4:37

Absolutely. Yes. As I'm sure you know, judging by your question, everyone who works in this space comes with their own story of healing or some kind of story of recovery or they know someone close to them who has suffered from something pretty severe and help them recover. And that has helped happen with me. And my own personal journey as well combined with my father and I come on to that. So I had pretty bad eczema for the best part of 30 years ever since being a toddler. And I was always given the same treatments, which really are symptom masking treatments, they're temporary treatments, steroid creams, which left pigmentation on my skin. I don't know if you can see that. But it's various places around my body where I overuse steroids, prescription moisturizers, which full of harmful toxic ingredients. And when it got really bad antibiotics, which you might know if over prescribed, really destroy the gut microbiome, which is the very organ you want to heal with any kind of skin condition or any kind of chronic inflammatory health condition. So I was kind of destroying my body by following the standard of care in the conventional medical space. And it wasn't until my father suffered a stroke, when I started to go in, inward in on my journey in a weird way. He was, in fact, my wake up call. So he had a stroke. And it was life altering. It wasn't so severe that he was gone. I mean, not gone. I mean, it wasn't a bleed. It was a clot and a very minor one, but it still was enough to really alter his life completely. And he's had multiple since then, before his stroke, I remember him being diagnosed with something called chronic inflammation. I remember where we were standing in the family home, we were standing in the kitchen, and he said, apparently, I've got this thing called chronic inflammation, his sister who's a naturopathic doctor, and about 20, other letters after a name, tested him, and that showed up in his blood. So he said to me, I've got this thing, I don't know what it is. And I said, I didn't really know what that was either. At that point, I was just getting into Holistic Health. And I was writing a book on how to increase testosterone naturally. So I started to see this word. But around the time he had the stroke, I was familiar with this word inflammation. And I kind of I kind of was putting two and two together and I was thinking, hang on, he just had a stroke. And a few years ago, he was told he had chronic inflammation. And I've just written a book on increasing testosterone naturally, and it's linked to inflammation. And I see, I kept seeing this word inflammation in bookstores reading and I decided to kind of go in this bit of a research quest to find out why he had the stroke. And I was convinced at this inner knowing it was like an innate intelligence telling me that his stroke was avoidable. I think if he's got chronic inflammation, that's symptom of toxicity in the body of chronic stress, why don't just get rid of that. And anyway, sure enough, on my research journey, I really I found out that chronic inflammation wasn't the the underlying cause of his stroke, the hypertension that led to the stroke and the asthma that he'd had since 12, a fully reversible condition. And of course, the X amount hasn't started toddler. So since 2015, I thought, well, first of all, I made some changes in my own life, dietary lifestyle habits. And very quickly, my eczema went away, I would just want to be clear about something I can't say it's quote unquote, cured. cancer cure suggests it will never come back. And we got to be careful with that term. I see eczema as a symptom of inflammation, I see any chronic illness or really a chronic symptom of an underlying cause. So if the underlying cause come back, for whatever reason, the accident can come back over someone else, it might be asthma, or arthritis, or gout or something like that. It's a symptom indicating something is out of balance in the body. So in 2015, for the most part, I got rid of my eczema and since then, I've been helping people reverse not just eczema, but all kinds of chronic inflammatory health conditions. Which is remarkable because this pretty much the same system or the same formula would work across the board. And, and it's now 2023. And since 2015, I've been diving much deeper into into the body, it started off predominantly with anti inflammatory nutrition and exercise and reducing stress and grounding. And it's gotten much more now into what I what I discuss is the four pillars of vitality, physical, mental, emotional, energetic, and now it's all about creating harmony in the body across those four pillars. So symptoms naturally go away. There's more peace with him. less resistance, and it's just a much more beautiful way to do.

Katie Graham 9:24

Wow, there's so much there. No, no, no. And like the best way I'm so glad that you dove right into all of it. It's, gosh, where to start the inflammation. Wow. Yeah. So it's if you're say just you know, average Joe, and you're experiencing inflammation in the body. We just as a society, what you talked about Neil is like there's these kinds of bands It options, right? What you're talking about is like medication. And then there can be physical like very specific physical treatments. But what you're saying is, okay, there's that way that is normal. And then you're offering like a whole different approach, right? It's like kind of this whole organism, treating the root cause can we dive in a little bit deeper into, like, if somebody came to you, and they're experiencing some sort of condition? What is that like first explanation to them? Like, what's really going on?

Neil Cannon 10:38

Yeah, I love this question. And I love that you said different approach, you didn't say alternative approach, because some people talk about the holistic space as alternative health or alternative medicine. And I think that's a total misnomer. It means nothing. I see there is health, or there is drugs and surgery, you know, there's drugs and surgery absolutely have their place. But Western medicine absolutely has its place when it comes to and it's life saving mode, parents are alive, thanks to Western medicine, when it comes to the treatment of chronic illness or chronic symptoms. I feel that it's completely missing the mark of what the symptoms are there to communicate to us. So the different approach is, right, I've got this symptom, what does it mean? Why is a symptom there. And I see symptoms as warning lights in your car. Let's say the oil light comes on in your car starts flashing, the standard of care would be take your car to the mechanic, so they can attend to the oil situation, at the root cause. So the the light on your dashboard stops flashing. That would make sense for the human body as well. However, what seems to be happening in the Western medical space is you get a symptom. And you take a drug which masks the symptom, it's like, it's like you're putting a tape over the light on a dashboard, or you're, you're seeing an electrician, and they're rewiring the light. So it stops flashing, but it's ignoring underneath the cause. That make sense? Yes. So yes, the lights might stop flashing, if an electrician has rewired it. So the light stops flashing, but the cause is left on. Notice it's not attended to. And it's as if there's the flame growing unattended, and the symptom has been turned off by the drugs. To add insult to injury, the drugs, there's not a single drug on the market, it doesn't come with side effects. Every single drug on the market comes with side effects. And that couldn't be interpreted as every single drug on the market causes harm. So I'll just pause for a moment, then just so they could sink in. There's the father of modern medicine. William Osler, I love this guy. He said, When you take medicine, something to the effect of when you take medicine, meaning medication, your body has to recover twice, once from the illness, and once from the medicine. So if we're just going to take drugs, we're missing the point of why we got the symptom in the first place. So let's say someone's got a symptom of you know, if there's a chronic symptom. And by the way, I just want to say again, they absolutely have their place, and they can save our lives. And if one needs to take a drug to live and be happy, and you know, fine, I would say just alongside it, consider why the symptoms showing up in the first place. So going back to your question, let's say someone's got a skin condition, or asthma or arthritis or gout, whatever it is, is a symptom of an underlying cause. And chronic inflammation I see is like the Midway, it's like an underlying condition. So you got I use this diagram in my book, and one of the presentations of a tree. So you've got the got the roots, you've got the trunk, and you've got the tree on top are the leaves and branches, those leaves and branches can be considered all types of different symptoms. The trunk is this could be considered a problem or the chronic, obviously not a problem if it's a tree, but I'm just saying that there's a problem in the middle called chronic inflammation and underneath the other roots, and the roots are water causing the inflammation. So most people have heard of inflammation, very few people can explain it. I actually did a talk at UCLA at the beginning of last night two years ago. And I said to the audience, now who's or ask the audience who's heard of inflammation and just about everyone put their hands up. And I said, Who can explain what it is, and very few people could. So I said again, I'll explain it in really simple terms. So think of inflammation as your your immune system protecting you from foreign or alien intruders. Something that enters the body that the body doesn't recognize has this potential to create an immune response, your army of defenders, your immune system goes on overdrive, if you like to go, right, you've got to protect the body, there's something entering the body that the body doesn't like, doesn't recognize. It can also be a response from chronic stress, living by the hormones of stress, we'll come on to that in a moment. From a nutrition standpoint, or any other standpoint where something foreign might enter the body, it has the potential to create an inflammatory response. Now, that's a very good thing, it's not a bad thing. Because if we didn't have it, we'd have no defense mechanism, we need that that we have to be grateful for inflammation. The thing is, when it happens all the time repeatedly again, and again and again and again. And again, the body starts to create symptoms, depending on your genetic code. So for me, that's eczema, but someone else might be asthma for someone else. It might be IBS. For someone else. It might be patchy motors or graves, or whatever it is, there's something a symptom, saying warning like, hey, Neil, whatever your name is, there's something going on inside your body, and he's attention. So, when we start, we normally start with nutrition, because it's the easiest place to start. Does that answer your question?

Katie Graham 16:29

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So much there. And first, I want to say, I'm just so grateful about how respectful You are of your voice and the words that you choose, I just see that integrity and you and when you say, you know, we have to be careful when we say alternative, or when we say cured, and all of these things, I just, I feel like your personality is just so aware of what's happening in this field. And I can just tell by your, like how you show up and your energy, it's just very inspiring. And I think for anybody in a field where they're trying to make a difference. So first, I want to say that, and secondly, I'm just like, glued onto the screen. Because there's so much here. And I mean, me personally, I hear inflammation. And I don't know exactly what that means when people talk about it. And so it's great to get your perspective. And it makes sense of the part where you say we can be respectful of the inflammation, because it's a defense mechanism, right of something happening in the body that is foreign, or, you know, chronic stress, like you said, and so it's it's just kind of this like signal that we can be aware of. And then it's a communication within the body that we're like, oh, we can be curious and look maybe a little bit deeper at the root cause for me and my journey, I have dealt with chronic pain, I've dealt with anxiety and depression. So I've been on medication. And I've also done everything I can to feel better, right? Like I've been the physical therapy, and I've done all the things I've done the acupuncture, I've done the medication, I've done all that, like the doing doing doing. And and it was out of the right intention, right. Like, my intention was pure, and I wanted to take care of my body. And I obviously didn't want to be in pain. But it almost felt like in the craziness of all of that I didn't really have a chance to pause. And just just like at maybe even like ask myself what is really like what's really going on here, like really kind of step back and see the quality of my life? And was I listening to my intuition and what things were really bugging me, you know, in in just the way that I interacted with other people and my relationships, and that was all kind of the juiciness of what was there behind that pain. So it's really fascinating just to see this evolution, in my own personal experience to really see like when you look specifically at the pain, and then what happens when you like, view everything together, and kind of look at it and be in like a space of curiosity like this is a roadmap to my life. Like if I can look at this as like, oh my gosh, this is so fascinating. I'm in The human body, I'm living the human experience. I'm a spiritual being, like going through the messiness of all this, but I can, I can reconnect to something so much deeper and profound if I can be open to, like really being curious about the whole process of looking at it, this totally different. And so that leads me into you, Neil is like, you get to be that person. That's the key for people to be like, Whoa, like, I can look at my pain differently. And it's so hopeful, and that, like, I've been so defeated before and felt so hopeless, that just having a little bit of hope. And like this, like, amazing journey that you get to go on, is actually such a beautiful gift. A gift, right? Like, how do we get to look at our pain as a gift? Tell me Do you have any like, yeah, what do you have to say about all that mess that I just threw out there?

Neil Cannon 20:59

Definitely not mess and I was just engulfed in goosebumps the moment you said, I'm a spiritual being in a physical body. And that that one thing there gives us so much freedom. I once heard the illusion that we are separated is what creates all suffering. So if we understand that we are spiritual beings, we are energy beings in these bodies, we can look at these symptoms in a whole new light. And you just touched on that, you know, what, what is my body communicating with me? I'm in this kind of reality, this virtual reality headset, let's say, what is the symptom communicating to me? What is my body saying to me right now, when I was in my late 20s, I had insomnia for 16 months. And it started the night, the day of a new job, my body was communicating to me that I was in the wrong job. And due to various pressures in society and can't leave another job, because I'd go from job to job to job to job for 16 months, I had really bad insomnia, which was coupled with really bad eczema. Because they went hand in hand, you know, insomnia is inflammatory, creating eczema, and then the eczema would make the insomnia worse, and this was my late 20s. If I had these tools, then I would not have suffered as I did. But the reason I bring that up is because our body is not necessarily an internal thing going on, there could be something external to our environment, or external to the body, like the work situation or a relationship, something. Our body is like a vessel of communication, saying, hey, Neil, whatever your name is, Katie, something's out of balance. You mentioned chronic pain, chronic pain. As far as what I've realized about chronic pain or fibromyalgia is it's almost always tied into trapped emotions and trauma that we sustain at some point during our lives. And if we are a, I understand that we are all experiencing trauma, you know, if we're walking, talking human being we've all experienced trauma. Of course, some people experience it on a much more severe level than others. And I was on someone else's podcast yesterday, and she shared with me something horrific. And I just thought I can't even get close to imagining what that must have been like. And however, we all have degrees of trauma and this stored like electromagnetic energy. And that then is kind of manifested in the body through various different ways. And it's often through pain, or fibromyalgia, which the medical community doesn't seem to have any answer for those two things. Other than kind of painkillers and anxiety medications, but it's it's, it's kind of peeling back the layers of the onion, isn't it? I saw that in your description actually peeling back the layers. I, I talked about that all the time. And my clients, let's peel back the layers of the onion that see what's right into the cause what's causing this in their body? Where are we out of alignment? And then coming back to your question, what can we how can we interpret pain? I've got to be open. Now. I don't think I've experienced pain like some people do. And I guess my pain comes in different ways. I was dating someone five, six years ago, she would wake up and for an hour, maybe an hour and a half. She had to do exercises, because she had a very severe form of endometriosis, which was causing her literally she couldn't move her legs which had so much pain. I thought I got nothing to complain about her. So pain is always communicating something. And if we didn't have it, there would be no way to determine whether something's as a balance. So it's another like another warning light. You know what going to university. I used to drink a lot. And the next day, surprise, surprise, and sometimes I have a headache. I mean, where were the clues? What were the standard of care is among a lot of my friends even then actually, I didn't want to take drugs occasionally. Sometimes I did if it was throbbing, but I would just drink gallons and gallons of water. I was like, I'm dehydrated. That's the only reason I've got this headache right now. And well, as well as the toxins from the alcohol, of course. So it's often the case that if you get a headache, it's a good drug to make to mitigate the pain. But the headaches communicating something, even if you're not drinking alcohol, which is great, and you still have a headache, there's a reason for the headache. So what's the reason for the headache? They might just be dehydration, but it's it's normally something deeper than that. People who get chronic migraines, why do they get chronic migraines, peel back the layers of the onion. And then you can ah, right, I've got some trapped emotions in my head. Or I've got, yeah, we can go, we can go into it. But this is it's all about investigating. It's like investigating what is happening in my body to create these symptoms, just respecting the body, we're a spiritual being in a physical body, and the body is there as a communication vessel. And it's always trying to communicate with us. Having more fun with it that way.

Katie Graham 26:32

There's so much power in that word freedom when you were talking about that connection to self. And I remember reading on your website that we all have that inner healer, like it's innately within all of us, and then that I felt so much freedom as well. So what I'm curious about Neil, is, you went through your own personal journey of trying to understand your own pain. And then you jumped into this field of work. And that's not a small transition, right. I know, just personally from doing the podcast, like that's a, that's a big transition point. My question is that innate healer within you must have shown up, and then why did you feel it was so important to listen to that part to show up in service for others through your work?

Neil Cannon 27:31

Yeah, good question. I see. I was partly fueled by my own unnecessary suffering for 30 years, and seeing what happened to my dad, as well. Yeah, was huge. Because I just thought this was completely unnecessary. Why did you have to have this stroke? Why did my doctors put me on bullshit, excuse me for swearing for 30 years? And what's going on here? And it's, I must admit, some of it came from anger. Some of my The reason I'm doing this now, I've been in this space for 10 years now. Some of it came from anger. But how can this possibly be happening? Why are all these people taking drugs? Why are people going through this horrific treatments for cancer when it's a symptom? You know, and I witnessed three friends die from that in 2015. That gave me more fuel to kind of investigate what cancer really is. Because if everything else isn't what we're led to believe it is, they're not genetic diseases. We know about the science of epigenetics. Now, it's been around for decades. We know that it's the environment in the body that signals the genes, it's not the genes that trigger the illness. That's, that's science, real science. Unless you're one of the very small proportion of the population, three 4%, who are born with defective genes. But anyway, we can come back to that if you'd like to. So coming back to your question, a lot of my fuel for my business came from suffering, my own suffering, and it came from witnessing other thought my father, seeing my son, friends die. And there's this innate intelligence, this inner knowing, I recently learned that Gnosis means in unknowing to get the word out, just to help people stop suffering. And I never intended to be a health coach. And I don't really call myself a health coach, but that's what I started off doing in 2015. I do much more than health coaching. And just seeing people come off drugs, you know, with my support, and they were, my very first client asked me to coach her and I had no intention of coaching. I thought, yeah, sure, why not? We've got inflammation down. She got her medications down for cholesterol and for bipolar, believe it or not, and I've helped a few women actually with bipolar and Just a couple of years ago, one client that she took herself off these medications and didn't tell me. And I heard six months later, she was still off them. So it comes the, by the way, I'd never advocate coming off medication. That's not my job. That's doctor's job. So, coming back to the question, it, it was an inflection point in my life I had, I had no intention of being in this space. And it is rewarding, helping other people, I do find it rewarding. And it the freedom of seeing other people become free. I've never thought of it that way. But it's, you know, seeing witnessing transformations and people when they were suffering for years, sometimes over a decade, or longer. Wow. Yeah, yeah. That's big. I mean, I think that you saying, coming from a place of anger, actually felt like a little bit of a wave of relief. Just the permission to come from a place of, of suffering, and maybe an emotion we don't consider as what maybe in the world of entrepreneurship, but of coming from a place of anger.

Katie Graham 31:32

But I think honestly, listening to your story, I think I come from anger a lot. And I and I have uprooted a lot of my anger in the process of just personal discovery and transformation through the podcast and, and realizing that my chronic pain was really rooted and a lot of anger. And when I first started the podcast, I had no idea what I was doing, I just knew I needed to be in a space and that my soul is completely tortured, and I just can't help it. Even though I had a really awesome job before, it was just, you know, when your soul is not on fire, then it's, you know, for some of us, it's just like, you gotta follow it, right. But I definitely carried a lot out of my pain of just like, ah, there's gotta be more, right? Like, there's got to be more than this, like, what I'm living and how I'm living. And even, like, the amazing privileges that I have. And that was, like, a point that really got me is like, wow, I have the money, I'm, you know, living in a beautiful place, and I have a roof over my head, and I don't have to worry about where I'm getting my food and water every day. And, and I was living in such pain on the inside. And I just, I was so confused. And I mean, I think a big part is, I was just so selfishly, like, there has to be something more. So I'm just gonna, like, go and try and figure it out. And the anger of just like, this isn't the right way that my soul is living. And I And I'm, like, so confused why and, and obviously, like, I don't have to go into like a whole, you know, personal transformation. But I think that there's like, a lot of permission and what you've said and just like feeling the feelings of that, like, being accepting of like, yeah, there's anger there. And that's okay. And they're suffering there. And that's okay. And giving yourself the respect to really be able to tune into that even if it doesn't make sense. Like it didn't for me, like even if i i On the outside didn't have a ton of reasons to why that that might exist. I think it's important just to like really be with yourself and be like, Okay, this is here. Like, it doesn't make any kind of sense, but at least I can start being really honest with myself. And yeah, and kind of put away all those emotions of shame and guilt and not put them away but like see them? Yeah, the shoulds like I should feel this way because my life looks gray. Like I think a lot of those things block us from the honesty that's really within and so my question Neil, like kind of leading in from my story into your work, you said that the first kind of step is to look at nutrition. And then you integrate I saw on your website like all of the the mental, the emotional, the spiritual aspects. Can you give us a little insight and maybe there isn't like a strict kind of process because I'm sure each client is different what you dive into it Um, but give us a little idea of like, how you look at all of these different aspects when somebody comes to you, and you can actually see them as the full person.

Neil Cannon 35:10

Definitely, yes. Just before I do that, can I just touch upon or just add to what you were just saying or confirm what you're just saying about emotions? Because, please, I think it's such a poignant point that what you said about experiencing the motion because we are in a society, or at least, I was brought up in days where we weren't meant to express emotions. Yeah, and particularly with boys, boys, don't cry. Guys, don't cry, don't spread, don't express emotions. And there's a slogan that says, the organs weep the tears, the eyes refuse to shed, that's also William Osler. The organs weep, the tears, the eyes refuse to shed, if we don't let this energy out, it starts to manifest in the body. And even if the if the emotion is anger, it's worth just sitting with it and finding out where it's coming from. Yeah, we shouldn't go out and scream and yell at people and punch people in the face. But we can still, that's not very good thing to do, we can still experience it, and feel it and ride the wave of it. I see emotions, all of the emotions were they're here to experience that. They're like our GPS. They're like our guidance system. And they're, do you follow abraham hicks at all? Yes, yeah. Amazing teachings. And they talk about how they're our GPS system. And they're kind of guiding us all the time. Yeah, where's this emotion coming from? We're not gonna understand where it's coming from if we distract ourselves. So. And that's typically how we've been raised. Distraction, turn the TV on, don't play a video game, get the problem, get drunk. You're in England. And I just wanted to touch on that, because I've don't think I've ever shared that I've on one a podcast, actually, that some of my fuel came from anger. It's come from that. I think it's the first time I've mentioned that. But I felt like sharing that because it's the transmutation of that anger into something better to serve into service to so other people don't have to experience X, Y, or Z. So what's your next question? How do we how do we go about the four pillars? And yeah, we normally start with nutrition, because it's the most tangible place to start. And a lot can be done by going on an anti inflammatory diet. And, by the way, this, this isn't from any new, I have got an interesting quote called qualification. But the stuff that I teach in my coaching has nothing to do with that, or very little to do with that. This is from reading books, which make a lot of sense to me by brilliant pioneers and health. And one of my inspirations I always love to give credit words do Primal Blueprint by a modern system. And then many other doctors who are writing similar things like Dr. David Parramatta, who wrote green brain and the author of wheat grain, Wheat Belly, and they're all saying very, very similar things about how gluten and grains can cause inflammation in the gut, and lead to a myriad of problems. I started I fell upon the Paleo way of living free around 2014. And it just made sense to me. And that that made a huge difference in my life. And it's made a huge difference in many of my clients. It's not to say that vegan vegetarian doesn't work, etc. But it's the what's common across the board with any of these approaches in healing is get back to nature. Go back as close to the nature codes as you can possibly get to take out all the processed crap, sugars, fried foods, anything that's been man altered GMO, there's a documentary called GMO OMG almost said that all I did, but I'm GMO, muted mutagenesis. hybridized wheat grain in America is causing so many problems. It's unbelievable. If everyone just took that out of their diets that they probably see a big change in their bodies. Dairy for the most part, at least cow's milk. Some people seem to think or seem to be okay with drinking organic raw milk when it's not been messed with at all. For some people that seems to be okay in their gut and for some people that does is that seems to work well. For the most part, people can benefit from not having cow's milk or dairy or gluten, sugar and just just cleaning up the diet can make a huge difference. And different diets work for different people. Everybody's got rd is different. And I would say, yeah, the main theme is anti inflammatory. And if you've got an autoimmune disease, what I have seen work for so many people, I've got a podcast as well I interview people who reverse incurable illnesses, incurable illnesses according to Western medicine. And what I've seen his grain free works very well, whether you eat meat and fish and eggs, or whether you don't so grain free, Paleo was paleo is grain free, or grain free vegan or vegetarian works very well to heal the gut, to heal autoimmune diseases, which are rooted in leaky gut. So we thought we normally start with nutrition. And that normally, that might involve some supplements to repair the gut and rebalance the microbiome and really up in the micronutrient intake, which we tend to be malnourished in vitamins and minerals from plant based foods predominantly. And there are some plants that don't work for everyone, for example, nightshade if you've got an autoimmune condition, so diets, that's where we start normally, and a lot of people can experience amazing results with diet alone. And that's really how most of my clients are getting results for the first few years when I was coaching. So then once diets dialed in, and people are swapping foods over for anti inflammatory replacements, I use the word swapping or replacing because I don't like the idea of going quitting certain foods. Or if you go gluten free, that suggests you're going to introduce a sacrifice into your life. So how about replace gluten for something that is not inflammatory yet is equally as tasty. So I'd like to talk about replacing foods. So you're still you're not starving yourself, you're enjoying food still. So diet, normally, when we start exercise, if someone's not moving, they're not oxygenating their cells, our cells, we have primary cell fuels, we have, we need oxygen, first and foremost, water, the pure water money combined. But number two nutrients, this is huge. And we need to be able to eliminate waste. It's a fuel isn't really a fuel, it's a fundamental requirement of ourselves. And we also need to sleep and we also need to get grounded. So meaning literally get connected to the ground as anti inflammatory. So if we think about those cell fuels, and where we might be lacking, it's starting, it's easier to kind of rebuild the physical pillar, because the physical means diet, exercise, looking at toxins internally, externally. So on the exercise part, if people aren't active, they're under oxygenated typically, and they're not detoxifying exercise does so many things in the body, people have reversed illnesses in cancers by exercising, I've got a really great interview on my podcast with someone who reversed a number of illnesses through just moving his body. Movement medicine, I think we called it. So so much can be done in the body by moving. We don't detoxify. There's many organs that detoxify. And one of the one of them is the lymphatic system, the lymphatic system requires movement for it to work, or toxins build up. So that the body temperature has to warm up episodes like slightly sort of limp, fluid can drain, essentially. So physical activity is key. Lift, I do like to encourage people to lift weights, for example, or do some kind of not moving the weights, but some kind of strength training with bodyweight training because it's when you strengthen muscle, you're also raising the energy in your body because of the Body Electric compared to electricity. But we don't talk about that now. But the point is, we need to be active, the body is designed to move, not exercising is a depressant. On the flip side of that, exercising is an antidepressant. So we need to be active, and who doesn't feel better when they go for a walk in nature, you can just go for a little walk in the local park and you start to feel better go and get some sunlight get grounded. And that alone can make a huge shift in one's psychology and mental well being. So then there's looking into toxins which toxins and light surrounded by right now are there other toxins in my body are the toxins external to me? EMF is a huge one right now. We've just gotten into 5g when there were studies prior to 4g, showing how dangerous these EMFs are to ourselves, cells and DNA. And

there's a that's a huge topic in and of itself. But when I'm working with people who particularly if people are in apartment blocks, and they're surrounded by all these Wi Fi signals from sometimes I've turned my phone on there's like 20 Different Wi Fi signals. I don't know Los Angeles or something So we need to protect ourselves from EMFs. I always turn my phone off at night. And it's all it's an airplane mode at least, and far away from me, Wi Fi router turns off and does really reducing exposure. But that's just one example of many toxins that there might be that we might be surrounded by. Some people, by the way, can't go into a Wi Fi into a coffee shop without getting a headache. Some people are so electro hypersensitive that they will literally get a headache. I know a few people, in fact, on my breath work this morning are on a breath work every morning, Monday to Friday, we have great conversations afterwards. And one of the guys is going through the holistic treatment right now to reverse cancer. And he's been detoxifying his body with a lot of different wonderful things. And he's noticing that he's becoming more sensitive to EMFs. He's noticing them he's hearing them. And it's actually a good thing, because he's becoming more mindful and is getting more protective stuff was homeless. Anyway, there's, we can go into each of these, each of these areas in depth, it's just, we need to be aware of the toxins, external toxins to us. Is that is the house built on a chemical plant? Or are we near a chemical plant? Is there a farm next door to bring pesticides on my face every day? Not quite, I'm exaggerating. But we need to, we need to be aware of what the environmental toxins are. So that's the other one is internal toxins. So there's, there could be things in the body that could be an effective mercury, or sorry, mercury in the mouth of an infected root canal, for example, that affects the body in a number of ways. That could be parasites, Candida, infections, something in the body, which is causing an inflammatory response. So the physical pillar, a lot of people can get results, but that pillar alone, but then we have the mental, emotional, and then energy. So do you want me to join to talk about after set a lot?

Katie Graham 46:51

Absolutely. You can, yeah, you can, you could take a little break breather, because that was, that was a lot, and I really appreciate you going in depth into it. And I would definitely love to tap on those other pillars as well. For me, I, I think I got so tunnel visioned into the physical pillar, the diet and exercise, and really wrapped up in the rules that society has created around these two topics, which I don't necessarily think are bad to have boundaries, but when it becomes so restrictive, and when you're not emotionally and energetically aligned, it can really create more separation, I feel like from where you're trying to go. So I just make that point. Because I'm a very, I know, Neil, you're like you have a lot of fire in you, you have a lot of like, structure, like you have a lot of I can tell, just from like your pit tech quality, and like, the way that you talk, you're just very, like, beautiful in a beautiful way, just like very structured and oriented in that way. I have a lot of like vata, very, like airy, like very esoteric, very intuitive. And so how I function would obviously be a little bit different than how you function. And so in a lot of ways, the emotional and the energetic part was where I needed to heal the most. And so I think, like, let's dive into those parts as well, because I definitely feel like not saying that, like, I think the physical pillar is so valuable. And also, I'm gonna say, so valuable to have a coach, because I think I just got overly like consumed in my own world and kind of trapped in that place, which I think a lot of us can, especially by the rules put on us by society. I also feel like it can just be so valuable that have somebody there guiding you through that. And also to at the same time, look at the other pillars, because integrating all of it is just so valuable. And somebody that has that wisdom and that guidance, like we don't find that, like very common yet. In the health community. So yeah, let's tap on like some of these other things as well. And you don't have to go through depth. I know that. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit and then anything you have to say about what I just said is awesome.

Neil Cannon 49:45

Yeah, I mean, I think you've touched a very important point, the mental and emotional well being has a huge effect on the body. So our thoughts we can literally think ourselves sick, or we can think ourselves vital. We I think it's widely accepted that chronic stress is the cause of around 90% of chronic illnesses. So, understanding the mind body connection is really key. And think of the placebo effect for a moment, if we, if we're taking this inert pill every day for our symptom, for a month, or whatever, and we're taking it several times a day, every time we take that pill, through the sheer power of belief, it's got nothing in it, the sheer power of belief, our brain chemist is commanding our cells in our body to create the perfect concoction of chemicals to heal the body. We know scientifically that the placebo effect works. And around a third percent, sorry, a third of randomized placebo trials, results are up on the placebo effect. And it's even more in various other drug trials, the PIP is 50%. So if we know that we can heal the body through thoughts alone, which is what it is, it also stands to reason that we can make ourselves sick through thoughts alone. So if we wake up, I'm going to jump into kind of Joe Dispenza style work now because I've just attended two of his retreats and in Cancun in the last year, June and December, phenomenal. If we wake up with the same thoughts, same habits, same habitual routines, and do the same thing, every single day, we stick we keep on recreating what we had before. And that shapes our mood, it shapes our temperament, it shapes our personality over time, if we have some kind of big events in our life that shapes us. And then it it kind of gets projected into the future. So we have some kind of let's say, we have some kind of traumatic event. And then we create meaning for it. And then we hang on to it. And in time, we have a mood and a temperament and personality. And it just becomes a projection of what happened in the past into the future. And we start to recycle and re work the same thoughts, habitual thought patterns and emotions. And it's like this cycle this continuum. If we can take a break from it in the mornings, and do some meditation, for example, we can we can start to reprogram these thoughts and emotions. So just back on the placebo effect. So with the placebo effect, we know we can heal the body alone, it's scientifically proven. The no SIBO effect is the the opposite of the placebo effect. So it is basically how we can think ourselves sick. So when I work with people, and they have symptom name X, I say the first thing, one of the first things I suggest is to disassociate from that name. My friend yesterday who's got stage two cancer, he said, My cancer and I said Can you Can I invite you to just not use that word anymore. Or if you say it, talk about it, that it's not, it's not yours, it's not your identity, it's a symptom you're experiencing currently, and it's gonna pass and disassociating from the name because we, if we give a label of whatever it is energy, we know that wherever we place our attention is where we place our energy. And we can, we can end up giving more energy to the very thing that we do not want by creating an identity with it. So we need to disassociate from negative labels, any labels really, but for the most part, negative labels, and it just helps to free the body up really, because of the mind body connection. We've got the placebo effect, we know the know CBF we can think ourselves well if we do it consciously. And if we can become aware of our thoughts, and we become the conscious observer of our thoughts, we can start to catch ourselves and ask ourselves where they came from. And are they real? Are they true for me? And and then the thought is also attached to a, an emotion, we think thought we feel an emotion. We have that emotion. And then we a whole cascade of chemicals follows after that. And that cascade of chemicals is either pro repair and growth or pro disease. So our brain is like a chemist. It's like a Bruce Lipton, Dr. Bruce Lipton, who wrote The Biology of Belief. Again, I like to give credit words do he's I call him the father of epigenetics. He was cloning stem cells and performed became cool, I think, in the 60s or something. So our brain is a chemist and the brain can can secrete this cause the body to secrete the perfect concoction of chemicals, our own pharmacy of chemicals, superior to any drug. This is something that don't Spencer told us in the last year through meditation, and through thoughts alone, we can create a pharmacy of chemicals superior to any drug. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Great. All this different information in the blood, these anti cancerous metabolites, all the different proteins, all this information that wasn't there before appears in the blood during meditation. I mean, how cool is that? So there's so much about the mind body connection, that we're only scratching the surface of the power of the mind over the body. And if we can understand the role of emotions, trapped energy, and how that can also affect the body in various ways, it's a really good idea, because then we can go about releasing this energy to allow everything to function more freely. Which takes me to the emotional part. So we've we've touched on firstly, do you have any questions on what I just said?

Katie Graham 56:05

Everything you're saying is amazing. And keep keep it rolling.

Neil Cannon 56:09

Okay, thank you. So with the emotional pillar, we've touched on how 90% of illness is down to chronic stress. So what is stress is one of the biggest things because and this is what I help my clients to do is to find new meaning, but what they're experiencing right now, because stress is really our internal response to external strains. I saw this, but I saw that definition in a book by Mahalik sent me Holly who coined the term flow. And I think the subtitle is living at the peak of your abilities flow living at the beekeeper abilities. And that has stuck with me ever since. So it's our perception of, of our world around us, which, which has the potential to create stress that we as we know it in the body. So if we can change the meaning of whatever is happening in the world around us, we can actually change our response. I always give a traffic jam example when I talk about this because two people can have a completely different reaction to traffic jam, you can both be flowing on the way to work on time. And then you're met with this unexpected circumstance, which there's a traffic jam, which has lots of parked cars. On stationary cars, two people can have a very different reaction. They're both late for work. One person calls the boss says, Hey, I'm late, chose our listens to music, listen to a podcast, your podcast, my podcast shows our users that time constructively remains calm, and is golden. And the other person gets exactly the same circumstance, and they start effing and blinding or swearing, they start weaving in and out of traffic cutting people up, like screaming at the top of the lungs, you can see veins popping out of their heads and neck, you can see the blood pressure rise, like they're about to boil over like a volcano, you know what's happening in their body, you know it. And that is a response. That is a perception of that external environment, which is lots of stationary cars. That's what it is. So imagine, I understand that there's lots of stresses that stressors that come to us every single day, whether it's work deadlines, or problems with family or pressures, export, you know that they're around us all the time. And this is a work in progress. By the way, I can't say I'm absolutely perfect at this yet. It's always a work in progress. And I'm always learning. If we can change the meaning and create new meaning for whatever's happening, and understand why we get triggered by these things. Life gets easier. So if I get triggered by something, I'm asking the question, Why am I triggered by this? Why am I triggered by these stationary cars? That's the stationary cars. Now what what is it? What's causing that? That and then go back to your words peeling back the layers of the onion. It's the trauma ultimately, which is causing us to be over reactive. So and really, I would say is the ultimate cause of addictions, problems in relationships, intimate relationships, finances, it all goes back to typically I would say unresolved trauma. So trauma is also known as trapped trapped emotions and we touched on it earlier there's there's really severe types of traumas, traumas not so severe, but they're still impactful in the body. So little things big tease that spoken about in the holistic space. So if we can peel back the layers of the onion and go right, what is the true cause of why I'm being overreacted. Now? Why am I so over reactive about my boss right now? Why am I reactive about this person saying this to me? What What's going on. And normally, you can trace it back to something that happened in your childhood when you were five years old or something that left you feeling a certain emotion and that got stored in the body as electromagnetic energy. When it was explained to me years ago, that illness is rooted in trauma, I thought it was rude, I couldn't make the connection between how an emotion could lead to a physical illness, I just wasn't there. I was like notice change your diet and exercise and move more, you'll be fine. But then the recent years, I discovered the physics of emotions, and it was understanding the Body Electric and how we're wired up like a house. And we are energy beings we are when you zoom in enough on us, we are 99.999 many nines, empty space from energy and 0.0. Many 01 matter, we are mostly energy. And it gets it stands to reason then that if we experienced an event in our lives and jolts, us, it throws us out of alignment, that energy can get stored in the body like electromagnetic energy. So there's many ways to release that energy. I've got a few favorite protocols, one of which is the Emotion Code, which is used as applied kinesiology to find out the names of the emotions when they were stored where they were stored, and then you can go ahead releasing them very quickly. And you don't have to go and do years of talk therapy, which can be counterproductive to any ordinance or symptom, or imbalance. So that's, for the most part, mental and emotional covered in a nutshell.

Katie Graham 1:01:38

Any questions? No, that was, everything you're saying is pure gold. Like I'm just resonating so much with what you're saying, I, I've learned so much about this energetic and embodiment work, I'm going through a breathwork training, facilitating training right now. And yeah, it's like, once we realize how impermanent emotions are, and how much they are fluctuating and how much in our, in our self energy, or in our central channel, and our wholeness and our capital S self, how much stability and power we have, when we can rest in that place. And see the impermanence of the emotions, it changes the game, like we, we don't need to get caught into that, into that energy. And like I love how you're what you're saying with the everything is energy, right? Like it's all a vibration, if we come down into like the cells at a cellular level, just what you said is like, we're all vibrating, even this table, like rock solid, it seems that way. But it's actually just little tiny atoms vibrating at a certain frequency that that isn't, is energy. So bringing it back into what I was saying is like, there's so much empowerment, when we realize that we we are wholeness at our center, we are connected with everything around us. And and we have the capacity to hold so much more than we think our minds, our mind wants us to think that we can't hold all of this emotion and, and there's a duality there between you can only feel good, or you can only feel bad. But then when we tap into the body, we can open up our capacity for so much more. And we can actually hold a lot of contraction and pain while at the same time holding a lot of expansion. And it's really an empowering place to be in. And like that fluctuating emotion. I once heard somebody say the quality of your life depends on the quality of the questions that you ask. So that question like Why am I reacting this way? And like, maybe why, like, what was the example? She said, she said, you know, like, what can I learn? Like what's here that, like I can I can look as an opportunity or, you know, it's like the the level of question that you're asking that. Can you be open and again, that curious place of like, huh, like, huh, like separate yourself from the emotion and see it from a different vantage point, can open up that self energy more and be in that empowered place? There's a lot there. I mean, it's simple, right? Like the soul makes it really simple, it's actually just very, very simple when you look at it from a place of, we all have a center point of wholeness, and connection, and there's just like pure love and light there. And we have the capacity to hold everything that we need to, and that it's impermanent, right? And we can be in kind of like more of a curious place with that all existing. I know I had something more there. And I'm sure I went off a tangent and brought it back in my mind is very, goes somewhere like Zack. So anyway, there's a lot there. And it's really, I think it's really important to include that in your work. I'm just like, fascinated with everything that you're saying. You say it so well, and so easily. So I'm so excited for the listeners to just like, soak in what you're saying. So thank you, Neil. And then are we diving into another pillar?

Neil Cannon 1:06:02

Like to? I mean,

Katie Graham 1:06:03

let's touch on that. Because we have the last one. Right, the last pillar? Yeah, this is a

Neil Cannon 1:06:08

perfect segue into that, from what you've just said, which is the energy component, understanding that we are energy, and you use the word soul earlier? And and I think this is where we become free? Well, we know that we are these, going back to what you were saying earlier, physical, spiritual beings in physical bodies, and what greater freedom can we have than that, knowing that we are all interconnected, we're in this realm of consciousness, we're experiencing life in these vessels. And it's like a, I'm starting to see like a game now. And actually listened to a really cool audio now by I think, by judging by the wording you're using, you might receive it. Dolores Cannon, three waves of volunteers. She's done for 30 years of past life regressions, and hearing from all these different people that she's working with, and what what we're doing here on in our school, it's like, yes, like we, it's like, we literally got our VR headsets on. And we are, we are here to determine and make the best of this experience with our five senses, knowing that we are energy, and if once we're energy again, before we come back again, we are here to determine and and make the best of everything we have around us and, and perceive what is happening in a way that's always happening for us. And I think that's one of the greatest blessings that we can know is that there is a blessing in all the adversities as well. He was recently advised to me by a friend of mine, when I went back to just I just got back from England actually got some stuff happening with the family and been a challenging time. And I was going through the process of teaching, coaching myself through these tools that I'm talking about creating new meaning and understanding that I'm not a victim to my surroundings. And I'm responsible. The next level, I talked about three levels of consciousness, there's victim, then there's responsibility, or Victor, Victor, this is often spoken about a victim to Victor. And then the next level is creator. And I was at the Joe Dispenza event in June, and I received some news that I really didn't want to hear. And my sister said, you want to hear it now? And I said, No. And I thought, No, I'm in the best place ever to hear this right now. And it threw me for a few moments. It threw me into victim immediately. And with a bit of processing, I was able to go okay, I can understand how this is somehow here for my own growth. For whatever reason, this really screwed up situation, or rather, how I'm perceiving it to be screwed up, how this situation is somehow heathland growth, and somehow I've got to accept responsibility, because it's here for me now. So I've done various transformational programs in the past like Tony Robbins and transformational programs in LA. And there's a lot of there's a lot around creating new meaning for our suffering and seeing how life doesn't happen to us. It happens for us. And then the next level really is it happens by us, which is that and going back to the Joe Dispenza thing or retreat, the advanced retreat I was on. I was on his meditation one morning, the morning after I'd received this news, and I were doing a walking meditation and I stopped in my stride and I thought, oh my goodness, I've created this. So I've gone from victim to responsibility to or victim to Victor to creator. I thought wow, Ali Holy Moly, I've co created this whole experience. So for my own growth, and everything changes when we have a spiritual outlet, really, I think if people don't have that access to a spiritual outlook, it makes everything so much harder. I can't imagine not knowing that we're all interconnected at this point. Because everything gets easier. So we're stepping into the quantum. The fourth pillar is understanding that we are all energy, energy, and we are interconnected, we can heal the body through thoughts alone, what happens in meditation, the science behind meditation is undeniable, not just Joe Dispenza tons of people have got science on it. He's got data that shows what happens in seven days at an advanced retreat. And I knew that when I was gonna go, the second time, I was gonna get a biological upgrade. We signal new genes and new ways when we remind ourselves and meditation enter the quantum field and get connected to this consciousness. And the feeling that you get when you are connected with your heart. And you're creating heart and brain coherence, we, we literally secrete a different concoction of chemicals, when we are in coherent state with our heart, our biology changes, we can improve our immune system up to six hours. This is the Heart Math Institute shown all of this scientifically as well. They've been studying heartbreak connection, since the 90s, I believe, when they discovered that the heart of the brain, it's actually got a brain, little brain in the heart 40,000 sensory neurons in the heart that act independently from the head, brain. And then there's got brain as well. So imagine those three brains working in harmony with each other and immersing in a meditative state, when you just kind of like letting go of thought and you're sinking into the heart and you're raising the frequency of your body, you're changing your whole biochemistry. And this is where things get really exciting, because it's like a reward, you know, go through the physical, and do all the physical things, which yes, absolutely important, as you were saying earlier, imagine just going straight to meditation, understanding these principles and healing your body to the thoughts alone, because people are doing that. People are doing that without going take out the root canals or the mercury, or losing 20 pounds of fat or whatever else, you know, that changing into an inflammatory diet, people are doing it by understanding energy. The thing is, most people aren't going to get sick and go straight to Joe Dispenza event, it's not going to happen. Because a lot of time people have gone from, I guess, how do I say this carefully, more kind of standard way of living, paying attention to the mainstream media, watching TV programs every evening, I had a TV for 10 years. I do I watch movies, and I watch documentaries. And I decide, you know, I used to watch Gaia, you know, I'm sure you're aware of for the most part, and this was this was me as well, 10 years ago, I I wouldn't have been able to go from being having terrible eczema to to go into a meditation retreat. I just wasn't at that frequency. I couldn't hear it. It wasn't there in my awareness. I was like talking to you guys. Now talking about well, I got to go to LA in 2014. And I saw these people meditating about what are they? What are they doing? And then I start to understand why they're doing it, you know, several years later, and then I'm that guy, that weird guy sitting on a beach meditating. It's, it's very empowering. And knowing that the science behind it and knowing if we just copied what the indigenous cultures are doing, you know, we've got these slogans that say, or phrases, follow your heart. What does your heart say? There's more to it than just being a saying the heart has its own intelligence, it's our connection to the divine is the connection to infinite intelligence. This is how we can get answers to situations instantaneously. Or we could have a shower. And the light bulb moment happens because we're not we're not connected. We're not in thinking mode. And we're at that level of brainwave, where we can just kind of bring in the answer immediately. And there's many, many geniuses of the past who would use this kind of state this brain state to receive solutions to problems. So yeah, the the quantum realm is really exciting. And we can we can create healing very, very quickly by understanding the power of meditation, and getting connected to the heart creating coherence between the heart and the brain. It's just amazing. That was undeniable. True. science behind this now. Yeah, so yeah, they're the four pillars. And it normally starts with the physical. unless someone's ready to this has got everything dialed in physically, they just want to go straight to meditation, we normally start with a physical, and then just go on that journey. I call it a journey of vitality as we go through all these different pillars to kind of peel back all the layers of the onion and get closer and closer to the core of who we are ultimately, our soul. And then it just gets more fun. And then all these different things open up in our lives. And we discover Gaia and all the different things we can do with our bodies and our superhuman powers and seeing without third eye and psychic, psychic, psychic powers and stuff. There's there's so much stuff that opens up to us at that point. So that's why I talked about it as a reward. But it's, we get sick. And there's I see there's a reason for that. Because what opens up to us can be life transforming in so many ways enlightening.

I once after my breathwork sessions, had these conversations are the main said earlier, one of one of my friends said he sees vanity as the gateway to consciousness. And I thought about it for a second. Vanity. I thought How about sickness is the gateway to consciousness. A lot of the people I've worked with, they've they've actually said to me, they've experienced an increasing consciousness and awareness, the all this things that weren't available to them before are suddenly available to them because they've gone through this journey. And I've yet to determine what the difference is between people who choose just the medical route and take drugs, or other ones and they make all the changes in their lives. And ones who they might choose the medical route first, but then they transition slowly into the holistic space. And then they have the enlightening experience, it's normally a combination of the two, some people will just take the drugs or just do the chemo and do nothing else. And I don't know, to this day, what it is about the different personality types, but it's everyone, everyone's here for their own journey. And they're all everyone's just doing the best with what they can at the time. With with the knowledge that they have at the time. So um, anyway, I just think I think the the energy pillar is the most exciting part. And as we're investing most of my time right now, because it was just, I want to dive into my superhuman powers.

Katie Graham 1:17:38

But we all like Gosh, that was Thank you meal, you just gave a gift to all of us. Sharing, like so generously all that information. I mean, you are such a light. And I just like I'm still trying to like soak in everything that you just said. I can't wait to come back and re listen to this episode. So thank you so much for your gift. And we're like hitting our time and I swear we could probably talk for three more hours and I would just be glued to the screen. But before I let you go Can you briefly share what your own daily wellness routine looks like? I love to ask each guest at the end of the show just to give us a little inspo and and then share with us where we can find you and obviously I'll put all your information in the show notes your podcast you guys check out Neil's podcast for sure. Your website and all your information Instagram. So yeah, let us

Neil Cannon 1:18:47

Yeah, routine first, I do breath work to do Wim Hof. breathwork do meditation or workout, I typically switched up between a high intensity or run or yoga. And I'm a kite surfer. So writing that one this afternoon or the next day or two. I'm going to go over to the other side of the peninsula and go kite surfing that's in the kite surfing season. I like to spend a few hours a day kitesurfing because it's not only an amazing sport and adrenaline fueled and what it does for the health is amazing. My skin just feels amazing. I've spent two hours on this in the on the ocean in the sun and sunlight grounding ocean water is meditative. It's active, it does everything. So that's one of my routines. I always suggest people do get active with something that they love to do. And forever from different people or different things. Some it's dancing, others walking around the park or whatever it is to get the body active. So I think being active in the morning is a really good thing because it just wakes up the brain for your day ahead. There's lots of other things but that's probably enough for now. All right. I suppose I almost forgot ice bath. I where I am right now I don't have my ice bath but an hour and 20 minutes ago away. I have this converted ice freezer which I get into every morning for five minutes and just sit there and sometimes do videos or just sit there in the in the ice. It's amazing. And thanks to Wim Hof. That's, that's why I'm doing that. Where can people find me? I'm at vitality secret.com That's my main website and my my podcast is the vitality secret podcast. So vitality secret podcast.com. And if they go to you can get my book which was the 2016 version for free the E copy at least. Vitality secret.com forward slash book. And that's it. Other I'm on social media as well. The the links on my main website, I guess the main one is Facebook or Instagram and the other 100 vitality on Instagram.

Katie Graham 1:20:54

Awesome. All right, Neil, thank you so much. Oh, go for it.

Neil Cannon 1:20:59

Oh, yeah, I was just gonna say, I'm just relaunching my online course now for when my next book is published, which will be the next month hopefully, oh, I think I'm going to call the course the vitality code online. So it's integrating these four pillars in a group setting with recorded module, recorded modules and a coaching call once a week. So it's on my website. So if you were to go there, and just enter your name and details and you'll be notified of when the next one

Katie Graham 1:21:30

is awesome. Yeah, make sure they get on Neil's newsletter so you can stay updated. When that course launches, and then nail if you wouldn't mind, shoot me an email, we'll stay in touch and when it launches, I can also shoot that out to the listeners, because I'm definitely interested. It sounds amazing. Awesome. Okay, you guys, thanks so much for being with us today listening, you know, showing up for your body and yourself in such a profound way. So thank you for spending the time and thank you, Neil so much.

Neil Cannon 1:22:03

Thank you, Katie. It's been a really enjoyable conversation. I've really enjoyed this. Thank you so much.

Katie Graham 1:22:12

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