17. Finding Balance with Pilates / Lisa Marie Glodowski

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Katie Kay

So let's just start with a little background about you. And what led you up to this point only in this studio teaching Pilates?

Lisa Marie 

Yeah. Awesome, Katie. Good question. I went to school at Oregon State. And I just knew, you know, when I started going to college that I wanted to be a coach or a trainer. And so at that point, I was like, Okay, well, let's go into exercise science. I'll be a trainer, or a coach, and started getting into school with that. And then as time progressed, I realized that maybe that wasn't my true calling. I knew something something I wanted something, right. I just didn't know what. So but I was really into athletic things. And so I actually walked on on the crew team at Oregon State. And, and the only reason I got on the crew tech crew team at Oregon State was because I was a fast runner. And one of the main things to get on the on the team was to have a good mile time. And so I got onto crew, I learned how to row and, and I really loved the movement side of that. And then after that I actually transferred to Western State in 2000. And I decided to go into recreation as my degree and kinesiology which is the study of human movement. And it was more of an art degree. And I really enjoyed that. And to kind of fast forward into how I got into Pilates is a few years later, I actually want to give certificates at a 5k race and I won a free Pilates session at the local Pilates studio in Salida, Colorado. And I remember like looking through the windows of the studio, and the Cadillac, the trapeze table was in the front and I looked through that window and I was like I don't know about that, like that looks kind of torturous. And but I did call the studio and they got me in my first session. We just focused on breathing. And I couldn't believe just through the breath and some of the movement, how I had so much tension in my body. And when I walked out of that studio, I just felt so much better.

I was actually kind of on the road of getting my personal training certification at that time. And so I kept going for that personal training and started training that route. But in the back of my head, I kept telling myself, I want to teach Pilates or I want to do more Pilates. There was just something about the movement and the equipment. That Pilates offered that I just knew in my own heart. That's the direction I wanted to go eventually. Unfortunately at that time, you know, we're looking at around 2000 to 2003 it was actually really hard to find a place to get certified as a Pilates instructor. Luckily, as years went on, I was able To get my certification in Colorado, and it took about three years to get fully certified. Yeah. Just because there wasn't that the trainings weren't offered. You know, throughout the, the year.

I got so lucked out. I actually met this gal, her name was Kathleen and she was in Colorado Springs, and she just moved there. And she actually came to the studio in saliva, and was able to train a few of the instructors there. Cool. Yeah,

Katie Kay

That's so interesting that it's so hard to do your Pilates training. Yeah. Because when you think about I think a lot of people associate yoga similar to Pilates. They kind of bunch them into this mind body movement. And I know yoga training is like every studio, I feel like has their own training. Yeah,

Lisa Marie 

yeah. It's it even like to this day, I find it somewhat difficult to find studios where you can get your certification. And even if you do go that route, it does take a lot of time and a lot of hours.It's about the same as becoming a massage therapist. Yeah. Cost wise.

Katie Kay

Huge commitment. And I find with Pilates. It's almost like physical therapy. It is it is physical therapy. And so you really have to know, anatomy. And we were talking before the we got on the podcast, and we were talking about how it's also being intuitive with your body to there's a lot of different things.

Lisa Marie 

Yes, yeah. And then when you incorporate the Pilates equipment, then you've got springs involved and resistance involved. And so it's, it's a challenge. I've been training for students, and this past year. And it's been really, really fun. But it just every time I do a teacher training, I realize how much is involved in Pilates, especially with the equipment and the adjustment of the reformer. And the springs can make a huge difference in your Pilates experience.

Katie Kay

So you went into this training, big investment, big commitment, what was it that really helped you decide, like, this is something that I'm really passionate about, like this is something that I'm gonna invest all of this time and energy into?

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, I think the main reason I really got into Pilates was due to my own injuries. You know, I would go to the gym pretty much every day, I'd run every day. I mean, I was kind of one of those, you know, attics, like where I was just like, I've got to get a workout. And, and then when I started to learn Pilates, I realized, Oh, wait, it's not about the quantity. It's about the quality. And so when I finally got that kind of drilled into my head, I realized, okay, I want to teach this. And, you know, honestly, it was just in my heart. I just had this like, feeling of like, I really want to teach Pilates. And then it got to a point where I was like, I want to teach students to become Pilates instructors. Yeah, I remember back when I was first into the Pilates method, I would like Google, you know, the exercises, I'd be like hundreds, and like nothing would show up. Maybe like one thing. I don't even think there was a video maybe one video out there. I don't want to quote me there was probably more, but I just remember being like, okay, who is this? Joseph Pilates? You know, I wanted to know more about him and the history of how Pilates came to be.

Katie Kay

You were really invested in it. And that sounded like that injury. It really helped you heal. Yeah, yeah. And so what happened with was it from crew or was it from running? Well, actually,

Lisa Marie 

the year I was at Oregon State, I decided to go up to Mount bachelor November and go skiing. Yeah. And I'm actually originally from Wisconsin. And so I was like, Oh, this is a big mountain. I was super excited. And I definitely was, you know, skiing for the whole day. And I ended up falling and tearing my ACL imcl. cracked my patella broke my humerus, my wrist. And so it was a big injury. And that was probably what led to the pain in the future. Yeah. And that's how I got into Pilates was trying to find my rebalance. Oh, wow. Yeah, that sounds like a really, really bad crash. Yeah, it was not fun. Yeah.

Katie Kay

And so you went to physical therapy. And that's Pilates was introduced to you that way, you know,

Lisa Marie

actually, I did not really go to that much physical therapy. I was 18 at that time, and I was like determined that I was going to come back, you've running and getting back onto the crew team. And I think that was a mistake because I didn't get physical therapy or Pilates. It wasn't until years after that I finally found Pilates, and then realized, whoa, I'm all unbalanced right now, because I didn't get any type of physical therapy.

Katie Kay

Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So I was introduced to Pilates through physical therapy. And so Pilates was this new introduction to like, what it felt like in my body to be really balanced. Yeah. I loved how you talked about the quality over quantity? So can you kind of explain that to our audience? Like, what does that really mean? Like how is Pilates more of a quality type exercise compared to the like toughing it out? Getting our reps? Well,

Lisa Marie

it's funny you say that, because I always think of like, there's always the running joke of Pilates instructors can't count. Which is totally true. Or at least for me, because we're always focused on the quality. You know, it's like, what's the point of doing, you know, 10 reps of something, if you're doing it wrong, yeah, it's just gonna cause more issues in the future. And so I think, you know, I think about like getting on the mat and doing the hundreds. Okay, so that's like a mat exercise that most people, they go to a Pilates class, they're going to do some type of hundreds. And so just the Pilates would try to get you to 100 beats, well, most of the time, if I have someone coming into the studio, and it's their first time, well, we might only get up to 20 beats or maybe 10, or maybe five. Because we got to learn how to bow our head, how do you lift your head up without straining the neck? Or how do you lift your legs up in the air and keep your lower back steady and stable? And so it's not just of how it looks? Right, right? It's how it actually feels and can you stabilize the spine, and really focus on the quality of the movement. There's a great quote from Joseph Pilates that talks about happ I think it's haphazard movement. Yeah. And so I don't have that quote in front of me, but I always think of that quote, is like, what's, what's the point of doing something if you're just gonna do it? or half do I guess you could, you could say, you know, do it to your full potential, but in a way that's not going to cause issues in the future and focus on the balance of the body. Yeah. Another thing too, is to connect the mind and body. I think it's very important not to focus so much about time and also how many reps are sets, and you're really more in tune with your body of how it feels. Not necessarily how it looks. But how does it feel within?

Katie Kay

Oh, yeah, no, I love that. Yeah. And the intuitiveness of it. It's like, I love how you talk about that. Because I find with anything, even like eating or just life in general, like, the more intuitive that you can be the like more connected, you can be to whatever you're doing, you're doing, like, for instance, food, if you're being really intuitive with it, you're learning. Like, when am I really hungry? Like when does my body really need that nourishment? When am I full? Like, when can I stop and feel good and feel grateful for the food I'm eating? Or, you know, it's a different mindset. And so I love how you're talking about that with Pilates, because that's I think that's kind of like that special thing that I felt with it is like, how am I like treating my body and my relationship to my body is really changing through this exercise and how you're talking about, instead of what it looks like, which is a lot of the time with fitness exercise our body, we can focus so much on the looks. But the feeling aspect of it is so so valuable. And when you're talking about the hundreds doing that hundreds it's like, Okay, let me look at this person and see how many that we can, we'll get to today, depending on their body, depending on where they're at. And it's not about doing the full set.

Lisa Marie 

Exactly, yeah. And maybe hundreds is not for that person, right? You know, so we get into a session and we realize, okay, well, let's work on a different exercise, single leg circles, let's loosen up the hips, and focus on that core, or the stability in the pelvis. And that's the best thing about Pilates is that there are so many exercises. Yeah, and that's what I love about it too, is that, you know, I know just Joseph Pilates kind of had a repertoire. But as a Pilates instructor, we get to kind of change that up. For our client, for the person that's in front of us.

Katie Kay

Yeah, yeah, the person that's in front of you, like, every, every body, every body body is different, right. And that's the beautiful thing about it. I think, like when I was younger, and I can still get trapped in my head about this is like trying to fit some sort of ideal or some sort of mold. Like, that's how I need to be or that's how I need to look and and i think like society, like we all kind of are subject to that, in certain ways. And, like, coming into an exercise or a class where we're really celebrating the individual and really celebrating our body's differences to like, that's so powerful. And that's so cool. Like, if your hips are tight that day, like starting with some hip open even Exactly, yeah, yeah. I love how you talk about that. And I also wanted to touch back on to that quality aspect. So like, the relationship that we have to exercise How does it change when we're really focusing on this more intuitive part? And how are we looking forward as in like, goals or things that we're approaching? Because I feel like the quality part is really focusing on more like lifespans, like more quality of life and like setting goals that are focused on like, I wouldn't say more important, but just like looking a little bit further ahead and saying, like, how am I treating my body now? And how is that going to really help me? Exactly?

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, no, I think I'm in my own body as a runner, and hiker and skier and kayaker. I'm constantly in in a way of abusing and stressing my joints. So when I come into the Pilates studio, I'm really focused on Okay, what can I do to be able to still hike when I'm 80 Okay, and so I'm stretching my hamstrings and quads and ankles and focusing on strength throughout my toes all the way up to my head. So if I can carry my pack, if I want to go backpacking, and so I always think about Okay, let's say I go for a big mountain bike ride, or that you're going to be very forward you know, you're not sitting upright on a bike if your mountain bike And just waiting for a tree to hit you, you know, you're ready, you're ready for that, you know, going downhill or uphill and you're, you're strong and you're kind of in that forward flexion. So in the studio or at home, I would do stretches that are the complete opposite and going into extension and side bending and really focus on stretching the muscles, I get overused and strengthen the muscles, I get underused. I think a lot of times athletes will come in to the studio and focus on the muscles that they're constantly using and trying to make those muscles stronger. But honestly, they need to work on those weaker muscles that they don't use throughout their activity. Here, McCall, we get a lot of, you know, kind of the extreme athletes, even some of my like 80 year olds, they're like, yeah, I went up to Brundage today and skied the powder. And you're like, so you've had two knee replacements, one shoulder replacements, but it's It is amazing. And that's honestly, I look at some of I have a 96 year old client and I go, you know what, I want to be doing Pilates and doing the things that she's doing. When I'm 96 Yeah. And then I also have a client that's in her 60s. And she's doing things on the reformer that I don't know if I'll ever be able to do. But it's the coolest part of that is I get to teach her and in these movements that I might not be able to do and it's there. So there's a weird feeling because you actually feel like you're doing the exercise. I'm kind of going off your question here, Katie,

Lisa Marie

that's every Friday, she shows up. And she does like an hour of yoga before she does her Pilates session. I think she's actually Yes, I think she just turned 60. And it's amazing the things she can do. And I've gotten to a point where I'm teaching her exercises that I've maybe tried once in my life. And so it's been a really cool experience. Yeah. And I'm like, Well, I might not be able to ever do the exercise she can do. But I get to kind of experience it through teaching.

Katie Kay

Yeah. And you can see her as an example like 60 years old, and I'm doing these incredible movements. And yeah, so it's, it's like a positive mindset that we can all look at as like, it's so easy to get stuck in where we are now and really focus on like, what we're not doing and all the negative things and be really hard on ourselves. But it's cool to hear like that story of that woman like she's older. And obviously she's really focused on just staying in like really good in that good shape. And that like Mind Body connection, yoga, Pilates, so that she can like keep moving the way that she wants.

Katie 

When I've had health goals, and a lot of people, our audience also have goals. And I think it's one of the top ones is to lose weight. How do you think that Pilates can really change that mindset, and maybe even approaching that goal in a positive way, but you're still moving forward? Yeah, to a goal of weight loss? Or, or maybe Pilates isn't really even associated with weight loss. Maybe that's not necessarily a goal that people have. Yeah. Do you have any advice on that topic?

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, um, (advice on weight loss) I think the main thing is, you need to know your own body, right? So I think of it as like you bought like, say you buy a new car. And nowadays you get a new car, you really do have to read the owner's manual to know how the state the radio works, or the stereo, or the trunk works. And I feel the same thing about our bodies. And if you're just focusing, let's say you want to lose weight, and you're just focusing on the cardio aspect. So let's say you go for a walk or you're running or you're biking To lose that weight, that's not necessarily going to get you there. And the reason I say that is most likely an injury is going to occur. Okay? And so learning how, again, going back to that quality of movement is really what's going to change your life. You're not, you may not you may look in the mirror and go, Okay, well, I didn't lose a pound. But you're going to learn how to stand taller. Right? And your posture, you're going to your posture is going to basically make you lose 10 pounds. Yeah. I just think that posture is huge. And really, how do you achieve good posture? Well, you can't just focus on standing tall, you actually have to do exercises to get there to increase your, you know, back strength, your core strength, your leg strength. And so if we look at it that way, you know, focus, if you're going into that boot camp mentality of losing weight, I think it's, you're going to get maybe some fast results. But is that going to be long term? You know, is it going to lead to injuries? And is it going to? Does it make you feel better? Like if you go for a run, and you come back? Do you feel good, and if you do, that's great. But if you don't, then your knees are hurting, your ankles are hurting, then I would say I would definitely look into more of a mind and body program and then add the running or the biking or something that's going to get the heart rate up. Yeah, I mean, I'm an avid runner. I love to run. So that's kind of like my meditation. But I do know that it's if something is not feeling good in my body, I will skip my run and focus more on Pilates or yoga to get there.

Katie Kay

Yeah, yeah, I think you're dead on with that, like, being able to listen to your body. And that boot camp mentality, oh my gosh, how many times have I been in that mindset? You know, like, this is happening? I'm losing 10 pounds, like, yeah, and injury or also mindset can crash. Right? And you can have those like ups and down cycles. I think a big part of it would be at least for me is like not being able in that state. I'm not really being able to have a relationship to my body. Yeah, they're in like a good way and like a positive mindset. And when I can kind of shift gears and do Pilates or, or other activities, right, it doesn't necessarily have to be Pilates, but in a way that I'm listening to my body, like you said, like, Yeah, no, go on a run or do something different. Being able to listen to my body. And then it's kind of interesting, at least for me is like, how much faster I've gotten to my goals, from like, from switching gears to like, okay, now I really need to listen inward, I need to make this positive, like, how can I change my mindset, and then all of a sudden awaits? Draw?

Lisa Marie 

Exactly, yeah. And the more you know your body, the more you're going to get the positive energy that comes out of it. If you're really unaware or not in tune with your body. I think that's where the negative thoughts come out. And then also, I was just thinking I was just reading a book. And it's, I think it's called breathing or bridle. Yeah. by James Nester. Yeah. And they were just talking, I think I'm in the chapter where they're talking about losing weight and focusing on your breath. Yeah, yeah. And I thought that was interesting. I haven't gotten deeper into the book. But you know, in that in Pilates, and yoga, and any mind and body exercise, you're really focusing on your breath. So and that's all to me to get to stay positive. You know, let's say I'm driving, and I'm like, oh, there's road construction. I can focus on my breathing. Yeah, you know, I may not be able to get my full workout in because I've got errands to do, I got to go to the grocery store. But if I keep focusing on my breath, that really keeps me positive in life.

Katie  

Oh, I love that. That's a great tool. Yeah. Because it is kind of twofold, right? That's like, what can you do in the moment, that specific present moment to feel better? Because we all have moments where we have negative thoughts, we're hard on ourselves, we're stressed, yeah, anxiety, we feel disconnected from our body from whatever the situation, or maybe we're wrapped up in the situation too much in the drama of it. So it's that moment. And then it's also like, second, like looking to the future, like looking to the long term, the long term goal, and I think like, what's been really valuable, I think, from what we've talked about so far as, like, that's really cool. A positive mindset is like, how can I look at my goal to be positive and like, how can I maybe shifted instead of like, okay, I still want to lose 10 pounds, but I also want to be healthy for a really long time I want to live as long as I can, I want to be able to do all of the activities that I love. And that mindset is treating your body with so much love and so much care because you want to take care of it. Exactly. So it's almost like those two things like the moment the present moment, and then those long term goals like I can see like what you were talking about, like you were dead on with just like being with your body being able to listen to it.

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I think about the just in the last year, I just had a baby a year ago. And you know, it's a lot as a mom, you know, all of a sudden, you're like, Oh, I can't just go for a run or I can't go for a hike. Or if I do I have to take my daughter with me. But it's like, every moment I have time to focus on my breathing or engaging my abdominals while I'm while while I'm at the grocery store. You know, those moments are so precious. And I think instead of always just thinking, Okay, I've got my half an hour hour workout, I got to get in to burn all those calories, I think, in a way that sometimes that's not always possible. And so if you have those tools in your little toolbox, so when you are at the grocery store, or stuck in construction, you can focus on staying positive and focus on your breath. Yeah, and engaging your abdominals at the same time and your pelvic floor. No one will know

Katie 

With pregnancy, how was that transition? Was that hard on your body? Did you feel like you gained some weight? And then did you go through a process of losing weight? Or was it pretty natural?

Lisa Marie 

I ended up having a C section. So that was probably the hardest part because it's like, boom, you just cut through my abdominals. Yeah. And, and for me, I was just like, Whoa, okay, it's numb down there. And how do I engage my abdominals. And it was a really, eye opener. And what was really neat is I actually started teaching a virtual class about finding your center. And I started teaching that at like 13, or 14 work weeks after the C section. And there were so many things I couldn't do. But after like the fifth week, I just remember being able to do a roll up and Pilates. And it was like, it was actually when I was teaching the class. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, what just happened? And so I feel like I recovered pretty fast. And a lot of it had to do with being able to do my exercises, not just all in one hour, but throughout the whole day. Yeah, while I was teaching, I could focus on Okay, engaging my abdominals, or re engaging my pelvic floor or stretching certain places where I felt really tight. Wait, why wise? You know, I was, I felt like I had extra weight on those first few months after I had autumn. And, but naturally, surprisingly, it just went away. And I think a lot of it had to do with, I took time for myself. I actually had 11 weeks completely off, which I thought for sure Oh, I just have five weeks off and then I'll start teaching again. But because of the C section I decided, you know what, I need more time.(pregnancy) And I think having that rest and being a little bit more gentle to myself, the weight just kind of came off. Yeah. I felt pretty lucky. diet was a big thing too. You know, I was really focusing on eating healthy. And a lot of that had to do with while I was pregnant, I was so focused on eating healthy for autumn, and then also nursing. I was I kept thinking, Okay, what am I putting in my body? And so that's helped. So it will be interesting to see when I stopped nursing it let's hope I keep it keep going the right direction.

Katie 

But it sounds like you kind of know what works for you and your body and your mind. So that mind state and like for you is just being really present like during the whole day. It sounds like like moments like it's not just that one hour class. Exactly. And like the part where you're talking about being really gentle on yourself. Like that. I think that's so valuable and maybe One person they might not approach their body in that way like that might be more stressful for me. I feel like I would be stressed out if I was thinking about doing like abdominal crunches it on the gross and the gross. Yeah. But like it's great like it's also great because like one person's way of doing it is maybe the opposite of somebody else's way of doing it but it's like what you're exactly what you're talking about is like looking at what works for you and your body and your and your mental state and, and like staying healthy and that way and and that's probably why like the way you know wasn't a big like issue or wasn't something that you needed to control. Yeah, like maybe I mean, who knows? Right? But like I can kind of see it as like that. Like it's a very positive thing. And you did what works for you. And yeah, very cool.

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, I'm very grateful for sure. Because you just never know. And I think also to being busy as a mom, I not falling into just eating whatever, you know, I was always always had the fridge full of veggies and fruits and stuff like that because I think as a mommy gets super, super busy and then all of a sudden you're like starving right now the good thing is we're in McCall, so we really don't have fast food. Because if we did you know there might have been a possibility I would have maybe went through some fast food in this last year. The easiest option. We just don't have it. That's perfect.

Katie 

And like it's funny that you mentioned like you're just busy. So you're not you're like you don't really need to think about it as much and I talked to I see a nutritionist and I was talking to her about that. And like with the podcasts and just like the website and like doing like learning all this new stuff. Like I've been really busy and I'm I'm like Becky, like, I've just been so busy. Like I feel like I'm just distracting myself from food. And she's just like, I mean, she knows I'm just like so hard on myself, and I overthink everything and but like she's like, well, like are you like are you purposely like trying to push yourself away from food or like you just like being distracted, and you're busy and like life is happening. And I'm like, well the ladder like I'm just, you know, like, I'm not trying to like, just I think there's a difference between, like purposely distracting yourself from food and like using it as like a tool to like, push yourself away from something that maybe you need to be confronting or less like less busy. Yeah, like you're being held, like you're being as healthy as you can and keeping things in the fridge. And it's just like, it's all a very interesting perspective. I feel like with nutrition and body and like, everybody has like, there can be one thing that quote unquote, is negative, but like you're looking at it from different points of view and, and everybody's different. And like, that's part of the reason I wanted to do the podcast is like, there's just so many different points of views and ways that we can look at things and just you're you're talking about the nutrition like, that just came to my mind. Yeah, no,

Lisa Marie

that's, that's great. Yeah. And I did, actually one of my clients is a dietician, so she really kind of helped me while I was pregnant, on just ideas, and having someone that kind of gave me recipes is and motivation to stay on track really helps. Yeah, I find that to be very important to have someone whether it's, you know, a sister or a friend or a client or, you know, someone that you actually see, you know, to help you out. I think that's very important.

Katie 

Yeah, like I I totally agree. I am 100% in support. I just told somebody the other day, I'm like, Well, if you're serious, like you really want to lose weight, like I would recommend going to see a nutritionist like yeah, you know, having somebody in your corner or like, like you said, I love how you said like a sister a friend or like having somebody to support you, because I know we all can get trapped in our own heads and our own thoughts and that Yeah, like that's it. That's the hardest place to be in, especially if things are going in a direction that you think you should be doing, but it really isn't serving you like having an outside perspective to help you. Yeah, you know, just like keep taking care of yourself in the right way.

Lisa Marie 

Exactly. And I think that's so important to have someone like physically help you too, because I feel like the Google is so dangerous when it comes to diets and sometimes exercise too. You just you get down into this rabbit hole of Wait, what should I eat? There's so many things online nowadays that it can definitely kind of get you the wrong direction.

Katie 

Yeah, totally. It's like going back to that being able to listen to your body.

Lisa Marie 

Yeah, I know your own body and know how eggs feel, you know, after you do it.

Katie

And that's like, the more I dig in deep like, the more I look into diet and wellness and like, go down the rabbit hole. I'm on Google, it's like, the more I realized, like, Well, how do I feel? Do this, like when I eat this thing? Or when I do this exercise? Like, yeah, that will tell you everything. Like that'll tell you all that you need to know. Exactly. Being aware of your own body. And trusting it. Yeah, that's the hard part. I feel like I have a hard part trusting myself. And like, it takes time, right? And with anything, like just doing Pilates, like I love how you said, Your first class was like, just breathing, like starting with those small steps and just starting in one direction. And yeah, like, That's so cool. Yeah, like breath. Like how, like, Who knew?

Lisa Marie 

I know, and I would have never thought, you know, coming out of that, that would have completely changed my, you know, life. And I'm still in contact with my instructor that taught me that first session. And it's been pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, cool. Yep.

Lisa Marie 

He's in his, like, mid 70s. Yep. So and he's, I think last year was his last year of teaching, but I think he still teaches at home. So it's pretty cool to see.

Katie 

Yeah, show up to class and you do breathwork. And then you're like, what is this craziness and you leave and you're like, I am the most relaxed I've ever been.

Katie 

Is there anything else Lisa that you would like to talk about? maybe tell us a little bit about your studio in this amazing space? I'll take some pictures and put them on Instagram because it's truly like a very magical space. I'm glad we could do the interview here. Awesome. Thank

Lisa Marie

Yeah, I feel so fortunate to have this space in McCall. You know, years ago, my husband and I, we were just like, we want to move to a small outdoor town that's close to rivers close to the mountains. And I just woke up in the middle of the night one day and it was like McCall, Idaho. And I went to Google, and I googled McCall Idaho and it was like, no one's teaching Pilates here. And so my husband and I, we moved out here and we opened up a small studio that was with the local gym. And then a few years later I found this space that we're currently at and I said well this is it. And so we moved all the equipment and put up the wall units and luckily have a great landlord and so got through COVID and I just feel fortunate because we have such a year round local community that does Pilates like this morning I taught a nine o'clock class and I was thinking today I was like wow, four out of the five people in this class have been doing Pilates since I moved here over six years ago, so it's really cool to see so cool.

Katie 

Oh my gosh, like that just goes to show like if somebody's sticking with that for six years like there's something there Yeah, it really is a magical thing and just to tell our audience like if you haven't tried it, like Lisa created this beautiful 10 minute video I did with her and like just trying it out and starting something new and like it like it for you It changed your life yeah and your career and this studio Yeah. And it's

Lisa Marie

so worth it you know and I think back to that day if I wouldn't have won that gift certificate, would I have made an appointment and paid for Pilates I don't know if I would have and so I'm really grateful for that and I highly suggest if you have a Pilates studio local you should try it you know you don't know until you try and just see if it you know how you feel after a session.

Katie 

Exactly. And a lot of like a lot of studios like do an introductory class or like something that you can try out and it's I'm not gonna lie like it's an investment to stick with it and yeah, for Pilates there's a reason Pilates classes are more expensive like you're getting the best of the best the training that they go through it's it is like physical therapy and it is very magical and but like I totally agree like finding a local studio you can go to because there's a lot of classes online but having somebody there like the energy or like, like they can look at your body to it's pretty wild. And pretty fun to like, have somebody look at your body and tell you because I know when I first started doing Pilates, like moving my body in space, like felt so weird, like who like I didn't know where my right hip was, you know, like, like, I didn't know what like what I was supposed to look like or be doing.

Lisa Marie 

yeah, I know, I felt the same way. I remember doing circles with my leg and they were like stars shaking and I was just like, Oh my gosh, yeah. A lot of clients will call me and go, “Well, I'm not fit yet to go to Pilates”, and I'm like, No, no, no, no, like you're at any state of your life, you're ready to do Pilates. Yeah, I think it's just finding the, the instructor that you jive with and also know, your potential of where to go. I think is important. Yeah. Oh, I

Katie 

Mccall Pilates Studio is gorgeous! Reach out to Lisa Marie with questions or book Pilates class!

Lisa Marie 

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