61. Healing Starts Within / Kylee Mecham
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Kylee Mecham is a 200 RYT and Reiki Practitioner level 1 and 2. We talk about healing our energy systems, tapping into the feminine flow, and how vulnerability is a strength. Can’t wait for you all to listen!
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Kylee Mecham
Yes, thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Katie Kay Graham
List. Yeah, I feel very blessed to and I'm glad that we met on Instagram. I was telling Kylie that I was just scrolling and I found her Instagram and she had this retreat, this yoga retreat posted. And then I looked into her profile, and I was like, Oh my gosh, this girl is awesome. We need to have her on the podcast. So I'm really excited to get into yoga and to Reiki and to retreat. And then you're also just a badass mountain chick that lives in Jackson Hole and lives in our van and mountain bikes. And so we're just gonna get into all of the fun stuff today. So this is going to be super awesome. Mm hmm. Yes. I'm excited to share and yeah, yeah, get into conversation. Yes. Yeah, I love it. Okay, so let's start with your personal story. What made you move to Jackson Hole? Maybe you grew up in Jackson Hole? Oh, no. But what made you stay in Jackson Hole? And then also, how was that evolution happen that you got into Reiki and to yoga and kind of dove into this wellness area?
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, so I actually have only been here for about three and a half weeks. I move around a lot. And I have always wanted to live in Jackson Hole since I was a kid. I've just literally been obsessed with this place. I grew up in Idaho Falls, Idaho. So I'd come out here in the summers a lot. And I went to a summer camp called PI basin. Since it was like from fourth grade till sixth grade. Once a summer. It was a week long. And we'd come to Jackson Hole for a day.
Kylee Mecham
And yeah, I've just always loved it out here. And I was trying to figure out like where I wanted to be this summer, because I wanted to be somewhere where it's not super hot since I live in my van. And one of my best friends Eileen, she was like, Yo, I'm going to Jackson for the summer. And I was like, bro, like, Can I come with? Because she lives in her mini school? Yeah. And I'm like, dude, like, why are we continuously suffering? Suffering is kind of a hard word. But we decided that we wanted to conjoin our van life in the sense to have it more of a community oriented lifestyle rather than separating ourselves and isolating ourselves. So we thought it'd just be really fun idea to be out here and I got a job within a couple of days. And I got a gig teaching yoga. So I teach yoga at the top of Bridger gondola it off piste. It's a little restaurant with a deck. And it overlooks the whole mountain and it's so beautiful. And you can see Corbett's which is which is a shoe. It's so magical. And I've been teaching yoga at the park for my friends. So everything just started flowing so easily. And I met some beautiful souls who are bike mechanics really been helping me get new brakes and stuff and everything just flowed like so perfectly as it always does. But I don't know how long I'm going to be here. That's kind of how fan life goes. I call it intuitive traveling to go where I feel like I'm supposed to. But yeah, that's my little Jackson story. Before this. I was in Park City, Utah. And I was in yoga teacher training from January until May of this year. So I graduated with my 200 hour vinyasa certification through yoga assets to nice Jews. Beautiful soul me Davis.
Katie Kay Graham
That's how we know each other. That's how we connected on Instagram is through Denise and Amy now it's all making sense to you but continue sorry.
Kylee Mecham
No, yes. I saw like because you guys did a podcast interview and I but yeah, so I was in Salt Lake from August till June, like beginning of June. So it was kind of there for a minute in the van, which is always a little weird being somewhere that long in your van because you're like wow, people are starting to notice me. The local little homeless gypsy whatever. Yeah, and I got Reiki certified through Shelly Morehead. That was Ching. Yeah, January of 2021. And I was living in Driggs, Idaho at the time working at Target ski resort. So I drove to Salt Lake to get my certification. And yeah, and I got into all of this. This because my upbringing, like where it came from having parents who were addicts and they were divorced. Mom was mostly single, or having husbands that were addicts as well and struggled with chronic illness. So I just always kind of found the importance for movement. And ever since I could remember, I've been obsessed with dancing, obsessed with stretching, like, I remember the longest time I ever was I was stretching was a month of my whole life. And I still remember that to this day. And then just always like, No, I was like, I'm going to be a yoga teacher. And people would always say that you should be a yoga teacher. And I'm like, yeah, like I will, like I'm going to. And yeah, then, as far as energy work, I really wanted to tap in something to be able to hear myself and others, and especially my family, and helping them with their struggles. And I've always felt like very tapped into energy. And as a kid, I would like, see really weird stuff and hear weird stuff. And like, in the sense of like, you could say paranormal things, I just was aware of that realm. And I always felt like I was here to be like a lightworker. And I was here to be the light, like, my family calls me their light. Like that's just kind of that thing. And I got introduced to Reiki. Probably like three or four years ago, when I tapped into my spiritual journey. I can dive further into that and how that all began. But yeah, I met my Reiki master because I was living in this really haunted house in Summit Park, Utah. I was so scared. I was like, this place is wack. And I told the owner of the coffee shop that I was helping out. She hadn't she wasn't owning a coffee shop at this point in time yet. But I was just helping her out. And I was like, Yo, I need help. My house is really hominid. Like, can you connect me to someone? And she's like, Yes, I know, a psychic. I was like, perfect. She comes on buses, my house, but she taught me how to do it. Which is not like, the most normal thing, right? Like, usually, if you pay someone to bless your house, they'll just do it and be like, hey, like, that's this much money by. But she was like walking me through it. She's like, this is how we do it. And then I just stayed connected to her. And I just felt this client. I was like, hey, like, when do you do Reiki certification? And she's like, I'm doing one in three weeks, sweetie, she's like, you can do a payment plan. I was like, bro, we have like 200 bucks in my pocket. Like, okay, let's make it work. And, yeah, it's a very spiritual experience. Reiki has been around for I think, 100 or so years that originated in Japan. And it's not one of the things where you channel energy, it is your the conduit. And that kind of may make sense that kind of may not. But essentially, I'm not like drawing my own energy, and I'm not getting exhausted. It's like a recycle thing where I feel very peaceful while I do this session, and it doesn't affect me. And then
Kylee Mecham
negative way really. So it's just a really beautiful way to connect with someone. I've had some really beautiful experiences and Reiki sessions. And so I have my friends that have received them. So I just love being able to tap into that I don't practice as much, just because I live in my van and have to do it at people's house. Which is fine, but it'd be nice one day to have like a studio
Kylee Mecham
for yoga and Reiki. Totally, totally.
Katie Kay Graham
What an amazing story, Kylie and you just have such a lovely energy and personality and I can definitely learn something from you as far as tapping more into just like the flow and just loving life and just being joyful, I can tell. You're just a relaxed person, and you're just here to enjoy life. And this conversation is just really fun. And that's something that I feel like I always kind of need to grow into as I've lived so much of my life and the masculine side and the setting boundaries and living by rules and expectations. And you know, like making sure the podcast episode is like this, this, this this and make sure it's perfect. And I mean, I'm trying I'm getting away from my perfectionism, but that's just kind of my old mindset. And so I've been really trying to be a little bit more of that ease and that flow Oh, and really centering into what is really important in life. And it really is, is just soaking in moments of joy and being alive. And
Katie Kay Graham
last night actually, I was doing a Wim Hof breath work. And I had this crazy experience with it where I just I felt like I was holding my breath. And I felt like this rush of panic of like, oh my gosh, I can't, like I'm not breathing right now I don't have a breath. And I was just like, okay, just hold it for 10 more seconds. And I had this like image. It's kind of morbid, but like me like dying, I don't want to get too far into it. But it really like once I took that breath. After that hold. I was filled with like tears streaming down my face, like so much gratitude for being able to take that breath. And I realized how fearful I had been around dying, of course, and how much other fears I've been holding in my life. And when I took that breath, it wasn't like another expansion into oh my gosh, like, I gotta take this breath. Like, I'm so so scared of dying, like it didn't swallow into the fear. It rather allowed me to be like, Oh my gosh, like the beauty of being alive and being grateful that I have this body and soaking in the moments of joy and like touching my thumb to my fingertips and just feeling that sensation. And it was like, I knew that, of course, death was gonna happen to all of us. But it wasn't until I like really sink into that realization of like, yeah, there's an aspect of fear. But also, I believe that we're all spiritual beings living in a body. And when death happens, that's just a natural extension of our body no longer exists, but then our spirit goes somewhere else. So now we're not living in a body identification. So we're wrapping this all together. And my experience is just that, I think we all can live a little bit more in that place of femininity of really like soaking in just this present moment, and tapping into that flow, tapping into that ease. And less of that constricting of like, I need to do this, this is the next place, I'm gonna go, these are my shirts, this is what I need to. And so hearing you Kiley talk, you just really embody that energy of flow. And just the fact that you live in your van and you travel around, and what you said you you're an intuitive travel traveler, like that's it right there. Like that's it, just letting the universe guide you. And I think a lot of us, especially in Western culture, most of us probably listening would be like, What the hell is this lady Doolin, like traveling around, and not really sure where her next destination is. And she goes to Park City, Utah, and takes this yoga training and, you know, it's like it but you can tell it's like it flows in this natural place, which is just not something that Western culture really gravitates on to doesn't mean, it's good or bad. It's just something that we don't necessarily open up into our lives. So I really want to drive that point home. As far as like, if any listeners are just like a little taken aback by that, I think it's a really good place to be in that curiosity and seeing, Oh, in my own life, where am I grasping on to like all of the I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to do this. Instead of like really surrendering, like really like dropping your shoulders, and just, ah, I'm in this moment, and like, it's gonna lead me where it needs to go next. And that's just like something I think we all kind of can learn through our lives. And I certainly am just like, continuously day in and day out, learning how to surrender. And that is probably the biggest challenge that I ever have had and also the most rewarding. So can you tell us a little bit more about that and you can kind of tuck into what I just talked about if you want to but also a little bit more about this, Reiki healing and this energy you kind of tapped into it a little bit that if you could explain a little bit more like, what is that process? What do you see in your clients? And how is that energy integrated into the body and just like how, how do you feel like it really benefits maybe your life and your clients lives?
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, Yeah, so I wanted to first of all, go back to that Wim Hof that you did, because when you hold the breath it is in between the past and the future. It is the divine present, where it's just such a beautiful state, but it is a triggering, or a trauma. Yeah, like triggering trauma, breath exercise. Because people, when they hold their breath, they go through what you went through, it's like, oh my gosh, like death, like you go through this whole thing. And I too, was doing I do Breath of Fire. Because it really like energizes you. And then I hold my breath. And yesterday, I held my breath for so long. I forgot I was holding my breath. And I like, transcended through time and space, like swear, I've no idea where I was. And all of a sudden, I just, like, come back to and I was like, still holding my breath. And I'm like, I can still hold it longer. And then I just dropped my shoulders and then sat in the space. And I was like, It's okay, I can hold my breath longer, and then just let it go. And it was like, Oh, it was so nice. But the power of breath is so beautiful. And especially when you're in cold water, because you're just like, soaking in suffering, which a lot of us have a very hard time doing and it's very triggering. So if you just breathe through the suffering and transcend into flow state, it's so beautiful, and that they're kind of coalesces into maybe some what of the way that I feel I lived my life, I feel like my stand is to help others grow from an uncomfortable place. Because I, I believe that I have come from quite an uncomfortable place of growing up in in my situation, and I'm so grateful. But it is like the, the suffering doesn't have to be your ultimatum. It's always about finding the flow of out of it. But I to do feel quite masculine. And I feel like that's been a little bit of my story. But the way that you say that I am in my feminine, it's like, wow, yeah, like I guess I am very flowy. And I'm not always super constricted of like, must do this. You must do that. But sometimes I am I'll be like, Oh, yes, I like to do this. And I have to do that. And like, Oh, if I if I eat really bad, and I'm fat, and if I don't meditate today, then I'm gonna have a shit day like, I don't know. But for the most part. If I catch myself in those moments, it it is kind of a perpetual loop. It's like damn, like I I either see it this way or this way, like it's black or white. But what's the middle road? Cuz I, I really like astrology. And I'm a Leo Libra Libra of Libra rising and Libra moon. So I really resonate with that because I feel like I'm always trying to find the balance, the masculine and the feminine. So some days it's like, all right, like I'm just gonna dance and feel the flowers and then another day, like, I just want to rip my mountain bike as fast as I possibly can and get so much air. I don't know. But following the flow is obviously like, what guides that but stepping away from that little kindred of Wim Hof masculine feminine Reiki getting into that, I call it like, more psychic Reiki, but it doesn't quite happen with everyone. So I'll explain a little bit. So as far as the Reiki session goes, we'll just start with that very beginning basic on value over Orion by myself over to your house, they lay down on a bed, or are you lay down on a bed or a massage table? And then I'm standing and I asked Am I allowed to do hands on or hands off? So if I do hands on I'm touching you with kind of like a rounded home you don't want a flat palm? You know it could be hands you want it strong
Katie Kay Graham
strong hands Yeah. Yes potential
Kylee Mecham
strong hands. And if it's non touch, then it's about no further to and like six inches because that's where your your like spiritual body. I forget the word but it'll make it was like six inches up. So you have to tap into that space of its hands off
Katie Kay Graham
that like aura or something like that.
Kylee Mecham
energy body, their body.
Kylee Mecham
But I have been attuned to level two Reiki. And so that one is symbols. One is like getting the basics down. And then two is the symbols and hand placements. So I'll go through set an intention, say a little prayer, either out loud, or to myself. And then trust symbols and tap in and I start with your head, and then I moved down. So the goal is removing the energy down. And then I will envision purple and green colors, because those are both healing energies, colors, and just sending that down. And you typically do hand placements for anywhere from two to five minutes, but it's intuitive, like you'll just know, Okay, on to the next on to the next. And during that time period, they're just laying there. In traditionally it's in silence, like, there's no speaking. Soon as you lay down, it's like, hands on, hands off. Okay, go ahead. And then what's going on, and my world depends on the client, there's some clients where they literally have put, like cage around their heart, and they are very protected, and they aren't quite ready to open it. So a person who has a very open heart, our session will be more like, I will just, like, get these weird thoughts. weird in the sense that not normal thoughts that I would typically have. And that's when I know that they're not mine. So they don't want to kind of just tap in. And it's we're communicating telepathically. So they don't know we're communicating? I do because I'm tapped into their subconscious, which is such a trip. And so I have learned some wild things from my friends through these sessions that they hadn't told me before. And it'll be like, say, like, on, I'll be on their shoulders. And all here, like, oh, I store my pain here. I'm like, Oh, is that why it hurts? Yes. How long ago? Did you store your pain here this long ago, and I have the sex. And I'm like, okay, note it. So I'll just like, note that, and then go through. And then a pretty common one is like the sacral. Chakra. So that's going to be more like down here. And that hand placements like this. And that one, you know, like, sexual trauma is very real and very, very Yes, it's, it's just out there, unfortunately, a lot of us deal with it. And so that there's typically a little more weak and need some more work. And just going through it, and sometimes I'll get the message of tell them this affirmation. So that's when I speak out loud. And that's when I feel it's okay. And I will just say these affirmations out loud. And I can like, see it in their face, I see like, some response. And it's like a resonance, and they're like, Okay, and then we go through a text that an hour an hour, 15 minutes, and then we'll flip on the backside and do the back side of their body. Let's call it an energetical massage, because I'm not actually massaging you. It's the strong hands. And afterwards, we'll kind of just take a deep breath. And I'm like, Alright, like your session is over at Clear the energy, and then I end and my little prayer and I say this Reiki session is over. And yeah, then we speak about it. And I asked them, I'm like, so like, what's up with your right shoulder? They're like, Oh, yeah. Do you just been hurting for X amount of time? I'm like, Well, you know, it's because your grandpa, this, this, this and that. And they're like, holy crap, how do you know that? I don't know. Or I'll just ask them the questions. I'm like, so like, Did this happen to you? And they're like, yes. And I've cried with my friends. And it's, it's just such a wild experience. Because I have friends from all walks of life. I have friends who don't believe in the spiritual world whatsoever. And I have just bribed them to do this Reiki session with me and they're like, I like what the heck and I'm like, I don't know do like my one homie had like demons in his legs. And it was so interesting. And you thought it was really funny. But love the kid. He's like, there's demons in my leg. I don't know. And some other friends. I would do more sessions. were frequently and I've done it on my family. Doing it on my family's a little more hard because that is when I feel that I'm more emotionally connect Did so that's when I get more energetically drained. And a typical Reiki session with my friends. It's like,
Kylee Mecham
I don't get emotionally touched. It just comes like water. It's, it's on and then it's off. But with family, it's like it's on and then it's on I have a meltdown. And then and then I come out and it's beautiful. But I don't always do them. I've done them a couple times with the firemen. That's kind of all but they all say they're so relaxed. Like everyone's like, wow, like I feel so just like embodied and grounded. And it's like, you're just meditated for an hour. And you just feel like a clean slate, like no rambling thoughts, like you're able to really address everything. So everything is the body's telling. It's able to be addressed in this Reiki session, and that everything just flows out. It's also truck chakra balancing. So you get back aligned and you just feel like, like a million bucks. You're just like singing and your whole body's tingling. To us to a slight degree, right? It's not like a nice intense sensation. It's very, very slight and subtle. But I think it's just such a beautiful experience and very, like sacred to. It's not one of those things where like, a drink of beer and do Reiki session, because I'll be it like a festival or something and someone would be like, Can you do a Reiki session on me? And I'm like, Dude, we're at a festival like no. And askew was sometimes my friends would be like, can you Reiki this, whatever the item may be, but we'll just go through and really intentionally set things and I will Reiki my van. Because you can Reiki literally anything you can rekey animals and really tap into them. Like say a dog's really anxious. And you can just sit there do the cymbals tap and you can Reiki trees. That's a really beautiful experience. Reiki plans. You can also do distant Reiki healing. I've done that before. I texted my friend and I was like, Hey, dude, like I'm feeling some type of way about you, girl. She's like, honestly, I'm struggling. I'm like, hey, where like, where are you? She's like, I'm on my couch. And I'm gonna take a nap. Like, okay, I'm gonna do Reiki session. And I'll text you when I'm done. So I just did a distant Reiki session. And like, even though she like was 200 miles away, I could see her couch, I could see where she was. And it was such a beautiful experience. And afterwards, she was like, Dude, I feel different. Like, thank you. So it's, it's kind of a big box. It's not just like this one thing where it's like, oh, we have to do an on a massage table. See only thing I can do with this spiky but yeah, can go. Why is sometimes when I eat, like Cafe Rio, why Reiki my food cannot be good. And when I first started doing Reiki, I was breaking everything. Like, every meal, like a dish, really setting the intention. It's such a beautiful thing, but life gets busy.
Kylee Mecham
went through the motions. But yeah,
Katie Kay Graham
wow. It's yeah, I think when I hear you talk, my conscious mind is like no way. Like there's, you know, like, the it just doesn't grasp onto it. Because I haven't opened up to that perspective. You know, I think, like, I'm aware of my limits of my perspective, and I'm aware of my ego and my limiting beliefs. Really, yeah. Which is like, it's great. And it really allows me to listen to other people and open up to what they're telling me because I also know in my soul, that there's so much more that I don't know that, that it only benefits me to be curious and have that sense of wonder. And just, I do know that energy is everything it is our atoms are 99.9% of energy. There's a little baby speck of solid and then all the rest is just energy space vibrating. And so I know when I look at this table, it's not hard, like, I'll hit on it and it's actually all made up of these little atoms vibrating at a frequency that makes it solid in real life. Such a trip. It's such a trip. It's such a trip and It's also like, oh my gosh, my conscious mind can't grasp onto this, because it's not supposed to write the human body, the human mind is not supposed to understand this, we're very limited in our scope. And so when you're talking like, I know all of these things, and it really opens me up to being like, there's so much about this practice about Reiki that I really think that Western culture can really integrate. And I really stereotype it into Western culture, just because it's easier for us to kind of label like the Eastern philosophy and the Western philosophy not to say like blanket statement, like every person in Western society thinks a certain way. But in the culture overall, there's so many things in these practices. And when you're talking, it's like, the energy of like, even just laying down and having somebody there to see you and to be with you. Like, how amazing is that? Like, most of us don't get that in our day, right, like, so even just that simple starts with that. And then I really believe in that we do and our bodies hold a lot of energy, and even the science behind all of this with the brain and the nervous system and how our nervous system actually creates these patterns. So we can live in a chronic state of stress, or if we have trauma, something's happened to us, or we've had complex trauma, we're over and over again, we've just created this pattern. It is imprinted in the body like we know this from science now. And so enter energy work, I really think is coming to the forefront of how do we address the whole person in this holistic way. And really release and relax the nervous system. So we can come into this parasympathetic, this rest and digest. Where when we're in that place, that's when the healing happens. Right? That's it like that's, like when we can heal is when we're in that relaxed place. Yeah,
Kylee Mecham
and Reiki very much so brings you into homeostasis. Yeah, it really just so I tell people, I try not to tell them too much about Reiki beforehand. I don't want to plant any seeds. I'm like I don't, I don't really want you to think this is some type of anything, I just want you to know that you're going to be essentially meditation for an hour. And just be open. Like being open is very important. I'm not going to tell you have to believe but just be open to this experience. Because nothing because the placebo effect, right? That's also a very big thing. Like if you literally do not believe in Reiki whatsoever and you receive a Reiki session, it's not going to work because your body you told it No. So beyond any sort of hippie dippie thing, some people call this that, or the woowoo. You know, beyond that, just simply laying down letting someone touch you like, human connection is the reason we're here, right? Like I say separation is suffering. That is the root of suffering. So just having that very strong divine connection with another human where they just get to see you like that there is healing within itself. We could we could have just stopped them and like, alright, Reiki is just divine human connection. And that's healing. To dive further, and then it's like, oh, kind of gives you like a little lens to put on. But the third dimension, I kind of, that's what we live in, right? We live in a 3d, like that kind of is a barrier. And like once you get beyond that and go to 45 D that's where the psychic realm is. And that's where the stuff that you can't quite conceptualize, but it's like, Yo, like, makes sense. So the whole thing of you talking about, like, I have a hard time conceptualizing that, like, yeah, even talking about it. Sometimes I'm like, Oh, I experienced that. And like, I can't really tell you how or why, but it's just the isness
Katie Kay Graham
Yeah. Oh, totally. I love that. That is totally as you say things that I'm like, Oh my gosh, that could be a quote. Daily, it's so good. And I'll probably just like I'll write them in the show notes so that we have them but yeah, just quick five. Yeah, quoted, quote, quote, there's five d notion. I just love that. Like, we can't conceptualize it because we live in a 3d So of course, like if somebody is only thinking and it's confined space, that's fine. Like That's totally their choice, just what you're saying, like, you're not gonna make anybody believe something. But I do think like, there's another notion that is easy to just see as like, that we can tell like, of course, there's more dimensions out there that we're not able to perceive. And this is a space that we can tap into. And it's really, like, quite profound, and I just started doing energy work. Alright, I've been going to a practitioner, and yeah, it's like it's been and it hasn't, it's not Reiki, but it's Body Talk therapy. And it's been beautiful. Yeah, it's been really, like, I can't like what you were just talking about? That I can't think about it. I can't explain it to somebody, I just feel it. Like, it's just an experience. That's like, yeah, there's no words really, to, and I can, since there are no words, I can't feel like I can recommend it to somebody because I'm like, well, it just works. Like, I just feel it like I feel it in my body. But hopefully, on this podcast, we can kind of like get across how profound it really can be. If you just you know, are open to trying it, like you said, if you're just in that place of being like, okay, like, let's try like I'm gonna be in this like, like this curious place where I'm just going to be open and not restricted by my limits. And it's yeah, it's been really powerful.
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, that's beautiful. And just embodying. Like embodying the benefits. rikes lead by example. So by embodying this, whatever type of way people will see it and be like, oh, like, that's what she saw. Yeah, that's dope. I want some of that. Like, can you give me those drugs? I'm like, yeah, baby. It's, it's actually sober. It's actually like, just energy work. Like, I'll give you a little sprinkle for sure. Yeah, like, really don't have to do mushrooms to feel like that. Like, no, do. But of course I can. That's fun. But like, you don't have to, which is the beautiful part. And that's when people are like, okay, like, I'll try it. I'll try and people see how flexible I am. They're like, Yo, like, can I come to yoga with you? I've been stretched in five years. I'm like, can you mow a bike every day?
Kylee Mecham
Of course, please come, come to yoga,
Katie Kay Graham
yoga, feel this power of the stretches, and come to energy work. Oh, my gosh, you're so funny and amazing. But that's it, right? You can't change. You can't push your healing under people, you can't change people if they're not ready and open. And so the only thing you can do is take care of your own personal growth. And exactly what you're saying people will see it and if they're ready for it, like you are that light, where just you healing being healed. They'll see that and they'll come to you and ask you, you know, for a chance. So what you know, what are you doing? And and that's like, that's where the magic really happens. So it's and it's not in the doing, it's not in like the masculine where we need to like, oh, you need to do this, this, this, this and oh my gosh, I'm gonna go to this Peru friend, because I feel like they need to heal and they need to change. It's not about that, right? It's just about being in your own authentic power and your fears, conviction and your healing. And they'll see in and that's like, I mean, that's the beauty of it. You don't have to try to change anybody. And Kylie, I want to kind of get into this a little bit more, and you were talking about your family. And you see your mom and she's dealt with addictions and chronic illness. And now you it sounds like you're or maybe one of your biggest motivators is, is to heal your family, you said to spread that healing into the people that you love. So what can you tell us a little bit more about that? Like, what is that? Like, you want to impact the people that you love, and you want to spread your healing joy into them. And then you also said that it was hard when you did the Reiki sessions. Like how does that kind of pull at the heartstrings for you as far as like, because I know and my life taking care of the people I love can also be the hardest thing because it's because then going through struggles, like you do want to just like heal them, you do want to just help them change, you see something that they're struggling with, and you just want to be that person for them. Sometimes they're not ready to change. Sometimes they're just not in that place. And sometimes you don't want to like push your own healing on to them. But I find that like family is the hardest. It's the hardest discussion to talk about. It's the hardest thing that really pulls on our heartstrings. It's the part where we grew up in that environment, and it's created trauma in our lives, not like blaming them, not putting any kind of labels on it, but saying that we live in a society where we're impacted by society, norms and rules, and, and the people that we love, are living in fear because of it. And then their fear comes into our lives as children. And so of course, like all of us is going to experience trauma from people that we really love and care for. So it's like, as I'm talking it, just like you can tell, it's just like this complicated web, of suffering, of love of joy, of trauma, it's like, it's all the all the motions you're gonna put out on a table, like all of them exist within our families. And so if you don't feel comfortable talking about this, Kylie either, like, that's perfect as well. But I could tell that like one of your biggest motivating factors is healing, bringing your healing practices into your family. And what does that mean to you? Like, does that feel like something that's really important in your life? And how does the healing like really bring you joy? Bring your family joy, and how have you moved through some of that trauma?
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, so I'm definitely open to share because I believe that there has to be at least one or two people, maybe three out there, they have gone through some shit in their childhood, and there's nothing that we can do. Like we that's what happened. We were little babies, like we got brought into this world, some type of way. And then you turn like, certain age and you start realizing like, oh, like I can you kind of like not identify with it and that Eve and that. For me, it was at age 17. I started having really bad health problems. I had h pylori, I had stomach ulcers, I had to get sinus surgery, ear surgery. They thought I had type one diabetes, I was having extreme asthma, anxiety attacks, all the while I was an all star cheer. I had a medical job out of high school. And my mom was sick too. And so she kind of started putting me on to my family friends and I would stay at their house for a while. And it was the darkest time of my life, probably that I can remember because I was so sick. But my, like, my mom and my dad weren't really there for me, my dad is working. He was a long haul truck driver driving around the country and mom was sick and had this very awful boyfriend that did awful things to his kids in our house. And it was it was just very disturbing. And he would come in and check on me while I was sleeping. And it was so odd that whole time of my life. But that is what brought all of this awareness that like I can heal beyond pain pills beyond all the medicine I was on, like seven different medications. I was on birth control. And I just remember like feeling pure suffer. I was like, this is the most awful feeling. I'd sit in my dark room all day and not go to school. And then get out of bed at five o'clock to go to cheer practice have an asthma attack, get rushed to the hospital. Have to get put on the one drug that makes you really come after forget, but
Katie Kay Graham
like a depressant
Kylee Mecham
or Oh, like it's it's a mask and you like breathe it in. You just feel like
Katie Kay Graham
Oh, I'm Oh yeah. What is that? It's like the dentists use it too. Right? Don't they like that? Like if you need to be put under something maybe not? I don't know. Yeah. Might be the other way around. Anyway, like a drug that numbs you out basically.
Kylee Mecham
Yes. And that was the only thing that would calm me down. And it was like, winter, it was like, No, I stopped taking all those drugs like April of 2017. So I was I was 16 when that happened going on 17 And I was just like There has to be something more. And I found out that I was dairy intolerant. So I really had to start listening to my body. And that was a click. So doctors were like, You should, like not eat gluten for two weeks. And then I was like, weird, I feel a little better. And then they're like, Okay, try not eating dairy for two weeks. And I was like, Wow, I feel a lot better. So I stopped eating dairy, probably like, January 2017. And then I started researching dairy. I'm like, why is it that dairy hurts my body. And then I got into peta.org I went through this whole freaking journey, and I ended up going vegan August of 2018. But that was like, click, I was like, okay, so food. All right. And then I found this YouTuber, plentiful soul, or Claire Michelle. She was like, a big spiritual influencer. And I was like, Whoa, like meditation? What? So from Idaho Falls like that places, lives under a different kind of rock. I live under a different kind of rock, for sure. But that place is another rock. I tell you. I just started learning about all this stuff. And I'm like, Whoa, like, there's like, all this beautiful stuff. Like you can change your mindset. Like you don't have to identify with your childhood traumas. And from there, I just started tapping in and tapping in and my senior year, I had to do my junior year and senior together. So I graduated from an alternative high school. And so I kind of felt like I was in college. Like I kind of stopped hanging out with people. I've always been a social butterfly, like, butterfly, like I would hang out with my friends all weekend spend the night at their house, like, ever since I can remember I was always with friends. So I hated being home. So I would just go to my friend's house and like, they like, would just take me on as their own. I'd eat dinner with them. I'd go to their family reunions, I was like, Yeah, I would have just become a part of my friends, families. And then senior year, I was like, Nah, like, I'm gonna just start kind of doing my own thing and journaling. And I started smoking a lot of weed. And I was like, huh, and then went vegan and went to college for a sec, then I dropped out to be a ski bum and started like, more in depth of the spiritual journey. But I fully have I started having all those health problems my junior year, because it just all caught up to me, like growing up. Mom was addicted to opioids, I had to live with my grandma. Dad was an alcoholic. He was a truck driver, too. We'd see him every other weekend, I'm going to read cm he'd be extremely tired from work. And, yeah, mom also struggles from bipolar disorder. So she was in and out of the mental hospital, she'd either be extremely depressed, can't get out of bed, or extremely manic during the most wild stuff. ended up in jail, Dad would end up in jail because he would get really drunk. And even though they were divorced, he would like stalk us. And like, we'd have to call the cops on him. And he would try to fight us and just show up randomly at night. So from a young age, like I came into this world, really from pure fear, like my mom said that she had postpartum depression for two years after I was born. And while she was pregnant with me, she was depressed the whole time. And she had very bad anxiety. And she had toxemia with me, so I stopped growing in her stomach, and I think five months. So that's why I'm pretty small and five foot and I really like 115. But I was a very small kid. Like I was in premature stuff for like the first year. And yeah, they got divorced when I was one. So from a young age, like it was just anxiety, depression, that I was just come, it came into. And then I slept with my mom till I was five years old. Like I could not leave her side. I was just stuck with her. And she tells me she's like you were my saving grace. Which is so cute. I frickin love my mom. And
Kylee Mecham
for a while I kind of like was not stoked on her. I was pretty upset. Growing up, I would just be the mom like she would say something and brother Mom, what are you doing? Or she would have to take some money pills one night and I'd have to pick her up. She'd fall asleep smoking her cigarettes outside get the cops called on us. I'd be like pro like, what are you doing mom? And she never really gave me rules. I have like some foundational rules but starting at 15 Like I was out till 5am Just hanging out with guys and girls like my girlfriends and we would I just have a blast during the most random stuff, climbing buildings, I've just always been so free and wild. Because I like, didn't like being home, and I want to do adventure. And I knew that that wasn't my ultimatum, I just always knew that there's more to life than our own fuckery. And how to get out of it is movement. It is also through the healing that sitting, sitting in meditation for hours or an hour, and really just tapping in and figuring out okay, like, Why do I feel like this? And just allowing that to be the guide? So I just got distracted.
Katie Kay Graham
No, yeah, thank you for sharing all of that. Kylea, it takes a lot to just open up. And there's a few things that you said that I just really, it really stood out to me is when you got sick, and you and when you were 17. And you were dealing with all these illnesses and symptoms, you said that it allowed you to come into this awareness. And I always say like that is the probably the most powerful step. But also just like the first step and change. It's just like being aware of what's going on what's going on with your body, what's going on mentally. And sometimes we know what's going on, but we're afraid to look at it, because we're holding so much pain and our body hurts so much. And mentally, we're hurting so much. But you put it in such a beautiful light of seeing the sickness and illnesses as allowing you to be in a space of awareness. And like what a beautiful and uplifting way to look at our body struggles and mentally what we're struggling with is like really it is it's really an opportunity to be like hey, yeah, like what's up, like, what's going on here. And also can just be like the hardest thing to do, because like I said, it's just like a lot of fear a lot of pain lives in that place. And then another thing that you said is listening to your body, and really being able to see like, oh, like when I do this, and I eat dairy. Like this is how I feel and tapping into that intuitive place is also a really challenging thing, because we're so used to just looking outside of ourselves for all the answers, which, like, a thing that you said earlier was that separation is the root of all the disease of suffering, thank you. Yes, suffering, it is right. And when we are looking outside of ourselves so much, we are really creating a separation from self. And honestly, like diet, like you can dive in deeper, but it's really like more of like you're in a separate place you're connecting to the ego, the ego is looking at the comparison, a judgement, it's really identifying with your body. So you're you're looking at other people you're comparing or judging you're bringing up this negativity, I'm not this I'm this I'm not this, I'm this. So you can dive in deeper on it. But like just to as a kind of a blanket idea is that when we draw inward and we come and listen to the body, and we tap into this intuitive place, that is that connectedness that is the nature of our true spirit. And in that place, we can release the DIS ease or the suffering and like the really the root cause. And I know this is really like a philosophy from yoga from my or VEDA from a lot of Eastern philosophies of the root of the disease in the body is really from that separation. So that was one point I really wanted to bring out is that you listening into your body and being aware allowed you to tap in to the self and really heal that root cause of feeling separated. And then another thing that you said that I thought was really significant is the surrounded by fear you said living and growing up Um, you just saw a lot of fear and you were surrounded and almost encapsulated in fear. And so that's what you were, that's what you saw. And that's what you were living with. I'm not to like you not to like blanket statement it, but you just said, there was a lot of fear, right, and a lot of fear growing up.
Katie Kay Graham
And I think in in that way, too, like if somebody can relate to your story, or even somebody that's that, like, knows that they're holding a lot of pain, or doesn't have a specific memory of trauma, or, like me, like, I felt like I was so grateful to grow up and in the way that I did, but I, I do think like, we all are surrounded by fear, like, it doesn't really matter, like, you know, what our parents did, or didn't do, or whatever, like, we are all surrounded by fear. And once we're able to notice that and really notice, like, this is how I've been living fair, this is how I've been living in fear. That releases like so much of the power away from the actual fear. And, and taps us into the, like, the experience of the experience. So the not relating with actually what happened, what we could control what we couldn't control, but our own internal experience of what the experience was. So I know that sounds kind of like confusing and making I feel like I'm making it confusing, but right when we like can see the fear that's an internal state that then we can heal from it.
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, it's the see awareness of it. And, you know, the fans still very much solace in that fear. And to kind of come back to how I want to heal a family. My first step now is healing myself. So doing my work, and I've gone to like some, I was going to a holistic doctor for of it and a chiropractor. So really, like, tapping deep into the energetical body on such a profound way, like my holistic doctor, so amazing. She was originally a Western doctor, and then started taking Chinese medicine like courses and stuff, and she's just so wise and I have, I still have bad sinuses, from my surgery I had to get I like, it's still like, this whole kind of always stuffy, whatever. But we would just like tap in and meditate and like she takes me through guided meditation and like, we've just go through it and I would feel so much better. And then my work with the chiropractor, like I was sick this winter, from August till March, every single month for like three weeks. I was right after COVID I just kept getting sick, who would just go to him and we'd like do the work. And we he's he does energy testing. And he doesn't like crack your back. He has this done. And it applies seven pounds of pressure. And he just shoots like shoot stock. So he liked his brain tests. And then he does red light. So he scans you with like this red healing, right? It all sounds so blue. And I would tell my friends and like, Who the hell are you going to? And I'm gonna be like, dude, he was like, text me like he was like you want to come in, I can really feel you need. I'm like, Dude, I do. But I have like, only 100 bucks in my pocket. Like, I can't, I need groceries. And the chiropractor, he's like, Don't worry, like, it'll work out. Just come. And so he would do a lot of oh my goodness, it's amazing. You do a lot of free sessions on and I really needed it. But to bring that that kind of stuff in as a family, I feel like they need a lot of debt too. So I will do the Reiki sessions on them. But it gets overwhelming because they need so that's a part of the process that's a part of kind of like anxiety with helping healing them like doing my work and then putting me aside, completely putting a block and then tapping into them. It's like they really do need to see some like higher level healers, you know, like homeopathic doctors, holistic doctors, like they've gone through intensive training deep they know so much about the brain and to take them to like a holistic psychologist and not just like the therapist that comes with Medicaid or Medicare whatever they're on, you know, but like, that kind of work would just be so beautiful. So I Tom someday when I'm rich. Soon I will pay Brush your teeth. And the unfortunate part about my father's that he doesn't believe there's anything wrong with him. But there's some, I could go into a whole spiel, but to save it, he doesn't really accept the healing. So I just give him a lot of My Love from a distance. And sometimes they'll have a meltdown. And I'll be like, Okay, what is this? Why am I having a meltdown. And then I just see my dad and my head, I close my eyes, I see a picture of my dad. I'm feeling my dad, like, and I'll just cry through it, let let that go through and send him love. And I'm like, he just needs a lot of love. And sometimes, it's not one of those things where you can just call him daddy, like, deep, it's like, through the ethers. Dad, I love you. Feeling a lot of empathy for that. And I guess, like something that we often forget, when we're wrapped up in our egoic. Brain fuckery is that our parents to have a story, our parents to have been through shit. And if they didn't do the work, they are putting all that onto you. And that's how they raise you. Like if they don't come to and realize that they need to do the work. It just gets passed on to you. So that's, um, that embodiment me and my siblings, we are here to do their work. And hopefully, if we have kids, it doesn't get passed along. I really believe in ancestral trauma. It is real. There's been proven things
Katie Kay Graham
are science. Yes, real science about generational trauma. And I will share a little like a little bit about that. So they did a test on this group of rats, and they traumatize the rats, and they sprayed a scent, while they were traumatizing the rats, the rats, and then they after they impregnated the rats, and then the babies came out and they sprayed the same scent. And those rats had a traumatize. They had a traumatized reaction, when only the scent was sprayed and nothing like they didn't do anything to them. And that happened up until the fifth generation of the rats. So that is not to get like too deep into that study. But if you think about that, like and our parents having trauma are great, great, great grandparents, yeah, to have trauma. So that's just a little like, that was one thing that really blew me away when I took the trauma informed yoga training. Yeah, which was just like Maisie and Oh, fabulous. I took it through Jen Solomon. And she's just amazing. She's in Park City. If anybody wants to learn more, obviously, DM me or message me, email me, but but that was one thing. I just came home and I just was crying. And it's a heavy training and obviously, but that was like the one thing that I was just like, I just felt like the weight of that because people are living their lives, and they're holding trauma. And it's not even trauma. It's not even their trauma, right. It's not even something that happened in their life. And so I think a lot of people don't eat will never recognize or address the healing. Because there's no why there's no like reason like, oh, I you know, nothing. Nothing specific happened to me. So why would I need to heal. But I think our especially this generation, we need a lot of healing. If I've been if you think about your great, great, great grandparents and all the trauma from that, then yes, like, that's my little side note on that. But yeah, I really do appreciate you Kylie talking about like your family and your past and, and doing the work. And I also just wanted to know that you know, I think me and you are very similar and like we're sensitive souls, and we carry a lot of weight of other people, other people's trauma or fear. However, we want to help them and I think too, it's really important that it's not really our job to like carry that weight right for them. And I think like as much as we love them. I think also I think also like keeping those boundaries and, and just exactly what you said, like, all you can do is give out love. And all you can do is keep your heart open and just continue to keep it open and keep it open. And but at the same time, like we can't carry the weight of other people or we can't carry the fears and we can't carry, like the responsibilities or the judgments of others, because we we will then close our hearts, like a sense of people like it will get closed off. So I mean, that's always something to is I feel like, for you, Kylie, it's like, you just you hold a lot for other people. And I can tell that within you and, and I just think like what you just said is like, all you can do is heal yourself. And that's the best that you can do. And other people will find that their way, right? Like that's the journey of life is if they really do want to heal, like they'll find the money, they'll find the means they'll like, put in the work, they'll find free YouTube videos, and it's not your responsibility to in my opinion, it's not your responsibility to hold their hands and maybe maybe hold their hands is a wrong word. But you know, be that person where it's like all that weights carried on your shoulders to to heal them. But yeah, that's what just something I wanted to know. And
Katie Kay Graham
yeah, if you have any comments on that, and then also, I want to get into your upcoming retreat before we leave and tell us about where we can connect with you and give us a little insight into what to expect for the retreat as well.
Kylee Mecham
Yeah, leverage free. I was just thinking about that. So this is my first yoga retreat. And I'm only 21. So, you know, just bear with me on that. Because of course, I'm just starting this whole world of, you know, yoga teacher training, all of it. So I have always wanted to host yoga retreat, me and my sister, like I've just seen the vision for a very long time. But I felt that it was like a five year down the road type of thing. I was like, oh, like, I'm young. There's no way I can make this work. And then I'm a yoga teacher training a couple couple months ago back in March in Denise is hits me and these two other chicks with a yo I'm hosting a yoga retreat in Hawaii. Y'all want to come and we all look at each other. We're like, what? And yeah, sure enough, within a three week notice, we ended up going to Hawaii on this yoga retreat. And she taught us how to host a yoga retreat. So that was like her driving point to, like, not make us go but to help us do. She's like, I will help you if you will help me like, I will teach you how to host a yoga retreat. And it just made so much sense. And I had no idea quite really what the rest of my year is gonna look like after yoga teacher training, I literally only knew that I was gonna go to my friend's little little desert festival called Flamingo stage. So I ended up going to that and then flew to Hawaii the next day. And during that retreat, she's like, I want y'all to plan a retreat in the books. By the time you leave this island, I want this to like, I want you to come out of the island posting about it. I was on social media for four months. And I looked at Denise and I'm like, You're telling me I have to get back on social media. I was like, No, I was like, dude, I'd rather hire someone. And then I'm like laughing with someone like hire someone. I don't really have that much money.
Kylee Mecham
Who am I gonna hire? I don't know.
Kylee Mecham
Sitting in the airport and a layover. Movie downloaded it. And while I was on the island, I call my sister I'm like, yo, you trying to host a retreat? And she is very, very particular. She's very like, I want to say very she's more of a no Sarah than he Yes, sir. I'm a Yes sir. I say yes. To most things. And I'm like, let's go. She is like a no, wait, let me think about it. This time. She was like, yeah, really, dude, holy crap. Now I have to step into my power. Because I, since I had the idea, I was like, I'll be the host and you'll be my co host. So came back. And I was like, wow, like, I spent a month in Mount Shasta last year in a little hippie commune. And I was just living in the woods with a bunch of random people. And it was so beautiful. I'm very trippy, it was very right brained, very right brained. We'd sit in the woods, meditate all day, do energy work on each other, give each other massages, do yoga, spin, fire, play the drums dance, like, it was some fairy tale I live and I tell you what, I will definitely never see some of those people ever again. You know, like, they don't have phones or social media. But it's such a special special place in my heart. So I was like, I wouldn't bring some of that magic to people, but in a different kind of way. I don't want them to have to come and live in a hippie commune with me. And I say commune is a light word. I just use that as a way, a blanket term of saying people coming together and living and hanging out there wasn't the only rule was no alcohol. But there wasn't like, yeah, we're calm, you know, we're cool. Like, this is our name and I just say hippie, I kind of don't love that word. But I just say it to have people kind of understand. It's we're just unorthodox people, more spiritual oriented, having a vision of connecting to source and grounding doubt. And aside from that, Mount Shasta is the root chakra of the earth. Seven Chakras seven chakras of the earth. Trust is the root. So naturally, it's a very grounding place. But of course, because of duality, it is extremely undergrounding. And I felt like I was flying the whole time, I literally would say that I was like, I feel like I didn't fly. And it's because it takes you extremely out of your room and pretty much puts you to your crown chakra, very heavy. So I just thought that'd be such a beautiful place to take people and living in my van actually, and when a que up and I'm like I'm not going to do, I'm not quite ready to do some fancy retreat, like in Greece in a condo on the beach. Like I would love that that's kind of something I would like attend not host, some Muslim camping retreat. And the vision here sober, no alcohol, I no drugs. And I also hope to have no phones. Obviously, you can't require that of everyone. But the vision is to kind of set our phones aside just for a couple days and show up on the full moon. So in Mount Shasta, there's a full moon ceremony every full moon and to drum circle and dancing with a huge fire. So I want to try to connect to that. And then the next day we'll spend the morning doing yoga, and we'll go on a hike and then we'll go swim in a lake. And the whole intention is to have intention, intentional movement, intention with the mountain intention with our products we're using like I don't want you bring in like some press toothpaste. It's not biodegradable, like we're using biodegradable soaps biodegradable toothpaste, like, we don't want to leave any trace, we want to leave this place how we found it. So bringing in sustainability, it's also a big mission here. And then the next day, do some yoga and we're gonna do some workshops. I'm going to do some one on one, Reiki gonna do some journaling. And my homeboy is going to cook for us, we're gonna eat some really good, yummy vegetarian, almost vegan meals. And Sunday, we're gonna wrap it up and send y'all home a second 11 hour drive from Utah. So it's pretty far. And I was hesitant to do it that far, because I'm like, That is a trek. But it'll be so worth. It's not that many people have been there or even heard of it. If you're wondering, Mount Shasta is in the northern part of California. It's a volcano. And it is a very small little tourist town. It is so beautiful, though. And there's so many good lakes to swim at. So yeah, I'm really excited. This is pretty,
Kylee Mecham
pretty big, but small. Like, if no one ends up coming, it'll just be me and my sister and her boyfriend together. And that's awesome.
Kylee Mecham
I love it, Kylie. That
Katie Kay Graham
sounds like such a fun experience. Definitely. Oh my gosh, like any kind of experience where you can just like be outside. I love the idea of detaching from phones from media. Like we just don't get that enough. And so doing yoga, Reiki sessions, like so fun and like what a better experience just to, like do something new and get out of your comfort zone. That's awesome. I just I love how you just like dove into it and claimed your power and leading a retreat that's really profound. So congratulations on that. And I'll put all the information in the show notes so that all the listeners can check it out and And and that is August 11, through the 14th, correct?
Kylee Mecham
Yes. Yes, it is. And you can find me on social media. Smiley underscore Kiley 777. It's kind of weird to spell. And yeah, I have a scheduling up. And I can also send you that link and that will direct you straight to the retreat. If you have any questions, you can email me at Kiley at yoke revisions.com of revision revisions. And yeah, text me call me. I can answer any questions. And yeah, thanks for having me.
Katie Kay Graham
Thanks, Kylie. That was so fun. Oh, so grateful, so much fun. And I'm just like so appreciative that we connected you're just like such a unique fun soul and it was just a such a pleasure to have you on share your story, talk about Reiki, all the good stuff. And so and listeners, thank you so much for showing up for listening for taking care of yourself and your body. I will see you all next week.
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Free Morning Mantras for Food & Body PDF: https://katieyoung539.lpages.co/morning-affirmations/
Episode Shownotes (more episode details & resources): https://katiekaygraham.com/blog/59
